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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Saying discovery is woke with their crew split in two parts, the queer ones all packed together and then the "normal" ones, seems like a stretch.

The gay couple basically adopts the non binary one who is in a couple with the trans one, are friends with the gay engineer, but barely even talk to the rest of the crew? Ah and sex scenes between straight people but the most the gay couple gets is sitting next to each other, brushing teeth and a small kiss (not that it's a bad thing on its own, it forced the writing to actually show a relationship and not just a bunch of sex, which is positive)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That did really bother me, shoehorning all the queer people into their own little box after being far more progressive in previous seasons. Literally anyone else on the crew could have adopted Adira (who I didn't really care much for as a character anyway, she was basically SNW Uhura but not as good an actor), but they had it be Stamets and Culber. How about making it, say, Detmer?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about making it, say, Detmer?

Who? You sort of trailed off there; all I'm seeing is a blank space.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

How dare you talk about my pretend girlfriend like that!

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

but the most the gay couple gets is sitting next to each other, brushing teeth and a small kiss

While you're absolutely right, I think the record should show that tooth brushing scene is one of the sexiest scenes in television history. Those two have some serious on-screen chemistry.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Once again, the "don't show too much gay" policy they seem to have forced them to show a relationship through actual intimacy, in contrast to the usual "relationship=sex" that shows usually have (which we can see with most heterosexual relationships in the same show, for example). Even the doctor that is portrayed by an actor that, let's say, likes to show his body (most of the google results are him half naked) was not sexualized stupidly like they usually would ; a positive thing, except that it's probably only because they don't want to "show the gay" (Book for example is always naked and fucking).

So yeah, taken independently it's a better relationship image than most relationships in most shows, but in the context it's pretty horrible.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So yeah, taken independently it's a better relationship image than most relationships in most shows, but in the context it's pretty horrible.

Absolutely. I think a lot of the audience realize that if they weren't a gay couple, we would see them with their shirts off together at every opportunity.

The silver lining is that the actors are so attractive and doing such a beautiful and convincing job, that the omission makes the show runners look prudish and silly.