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The report outlined that the fallout is due to differences over the creative direction of the franchise, with Amazon reportedly in favour of “Marvel-style” ideas to expand the franchise, such as spinoff shows and films.

No, for fucks sake. No!

Broccoli is reported to have baulked at the pitch, telling friends that Amazon are “fucking idiots” who are taking the franchise “hostage”. She has reportedly expressed her disinterest in continuing to work with Amazon for any Bond films. NME has reached out to Amazon MGM Studios for comment.

"Fucking idiots" indeed. And too predictable, to be honest.

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[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Amazon Bond or no new Bond at all?

I'm good with how the franchise ended in the last movie.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I stopped after the first Daniel Craig.

Nothing against him, he's a great actor. Just didn't like the direction of the franchise.

The 70's Roger Moore stuff was campy (which wasn't the best, but you knew that going in) but at least that had it's antecedent with Roger Moore playing The Saint in the 1960's.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's been around for so long that it affects different generations. I prefer the Daniel Craig ones over the others just because that's what was entertaining to me at the time even though I've watched some of the older ones.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Absolutely, and it reflects the audience it's targeting.

Which is why Roger Moore's is clearly if it's time (which even then I thought was pretty bad, but it was entertaining).

I just don't find melodrama to be entertaining, and the new Bond is all melodrama. Just like some old movies I don't watch because the melodramatic score cheapens the actual drama.

This is a problem with a lot of movie and TV today, this hand-holding of the audience. It's patronizing, and boring.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You preferred the way it was going with Pierce Brosnan? I suppose you didn't like the direction Christopher Nolan took Batman either, should have left it with Schumacher lololol

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Definitely preferred Pierce, a significant improvement over the absolute camp of Roger Moore (which was a product of its time).

I do understand the reasoning for the direction with Craig, at least that relied on why Bond was the way he was (as described in Her Majesty's Secret Service).

And I consider it unfortunate that most viewers didn't know this about Bond in the earlier movies.

Never watched any Batman, they all looked like cheap crap.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Lololol, if you like Brosnan's Bond, you'll love all the pre-2000s Batman movies. You really can't get cheaper or crappier than the 90s/early 00s Bond movies, legitimately some of the worst-written movies I've ever seen (and not just Bond movies).

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

90's were a hell of a drug.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Franchise? Ended? That's an oxymoron.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As long as it can be milked it will be milked. They'd never end a franchise voluntarily.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The problem might be that you don't know what the word oxymoron means

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

It's a contradiction in itself. Just like a voluntarily ended movie franchise.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Methinks you sit in a glass house:

ox·y·mo·ron  (ŏk′sē-môr′ŏn′) n. pl. ox·y·mo·rons or ox·y·mo·ra (-môr′ə) A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.

"Franchise ending" is definitely oxymoronic, as all it takes is someone else wanting to produce it. At best you could say "the current iteration of a franchise has ended".

Bond itself is a great example. It seemingly ended after Sean Connery (there was a short hiatus), then again after Roger Moore and they couldn't get Pierce Brosnan so eventually stop-gapped with Timothy Dalton. Then another short hiatus after Pierce, until it went in a new direction with Daniel Craig, which could be described as revamped/reworked to follow the mood of On Her Majesty's Secret Service (though if you read that book, you understand Sean Connery's Bond better).

So much effort to continue being wrong

[–] gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

franchise /frăn′chīz″/ noun, plural franchises

(removed other meanings)

  • a series of related works (such as novels or films) each of which includes the same characters or different characters that are understood to exist and interact in the same fictional universe with characters from the other works

I'm not seeing how 'a franchise ending' is oxymoronic.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I mean, they did kill him off in the last one...

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

They killed Craigs' Bond, 007 isn't tied to one person. "Bond will return."

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

That never stopped anyone. Prequels, multiverses, crazy unbelievable hat trick escapes...