I'm all for voting for a better candidate, but we have a broken 2 party system, and it very much is if you don't vote for one of the two main parties, you are pretty much just not voting at all.

I don't vote for this person. I'm voting against that person.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Dems have been nothing but a doormat for the last 30 years, the party of complicity. I'm absolutely positive they've been playing the dupe and moving the US further to the right all the while playing the victim.

Could have fixed the electoral college but didn't. Could have codified abortion into the constitution but didn't. Could have filled RBGs supreme court seat without Senate confirmation regardless of the pearl clutching, but didn't. Could have put pressure on the justice department to get their investigation done with to get the trial for Trump for treason at least started....but fuck me, they didn't.... seriously- they couldn't put a case together in 3 years?????

Could have, should have, would have. Fucking useless.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I agree, but also stand by my point. In a horrible 2 party system, they're simply "not conservative", and so I'm forced to vote for them. That being said, Bernie should have won.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 23 points 1 week ago

Bernie got railroaded.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

They are conservative though.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In my country we stopped voting the socdem party, because they betrayed the workers. From one election to the next they lost like half the votes.

For 4 years the conservative party ruled. But after that the socdem change their politics we voted them again and had had a fairly leftist government for the last year.

They are slacking again so I plan not to vote next election, hoping thar more people get the memo, they sink again in votes and sit to think on why people felt betrayed, and change for the better.

4 years of conservative party were worthy giving that after the socdems turned left again we conquer a lot of things that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise if we would have keep on voting their moderate centrist version.

We also voted for third parties when they said that it was throwing your vote away, and the other party got almost the same votes as the socdems(too bad they were not that good once they sat on office). My point is that courage is needed to make a change.

[–] svtdragon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the US the ruling party fills lifetime judicial appointments, which means the 4 years of conservative rule can have decades of lasting impact that will thwart any progressive policies that the next leftish government tries to implement.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

You can get around the courts. FDR did.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Then they better fucking learn quick, huh?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, so the best option is to not vote and let them succeed unimpeded.

The best option is to scream at anyone who isn't fucking delighted that your side of the party has moved so far to the right that they're supporting genocide.

No one can gripe about your shit wing of the party.

[–] Simmy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago

That's exactly the voter attitude, that gets the broken 2 party system. Politicians know this kind of thinking and use it to their advantage.