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If anyone asks how the Germans could elect a wannabe autocrat populist and how many people could ignore clear signs of genocide going on.
Now you know.
Edit
A lot of people commenting about either my observation not being astute enough, or misinterpreting history in one way or another.
My observation is solely about and how these things happen it's not very conspirational nor institutional, just weaponized anxiety, populism, polarity and apathy.
The particular brand of ideology, or the identity of the perpetrator does very little for the equation. People being selfish and wilfully ignorant as long as they are pandered to.
We've been watching fascists pile into legislatures from Russia to the UK for decades. It's cute to make everything about Hitler, but this isn't an event unique to '33.
You can find historical parallels in the collapse of Yugoslavia and the Irish Troubles, Modi's rise in India and the Nixon/Reagan reaction to the US civil rights movement, the military coups in Guatemala and El Salvador, the dictatorships of South Korea and South Vietnam...
There's deeper historical roots to Trumpism than just "America made another oopsie cause we're dumb-dumbs"
Sure yeah.
The point here is that Hitler is cleraly the most famous crazy dictator. And now, almost 100 years later, it's looking like this Trump fellow is going to be remember quite a lot as well. I don't know about you, but I'm generally slightly afraid, and I'm not even American.
He's the Big Historical National Enemy. The one that we famously ground into humiliating defeat.
Trump didn't pattern his campaign after Hitler. He patterned it after Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.
Oh his campaign was more like former American presidents, instead of one of a German Chancellor from the 1930's? Huh. This day is full of surprises.
His presidency was more like these prior administrations as well.
Trump is not a unique aberration in American politics. He's a continuation of a historical trend.
I don't know man, I fail to recall anyone else being as spectaculary unpredictable and insane, who's made objective truth a concept of the past.
Trump vs Truth
He's just completely fucking insane, genuinely. His speech is weird gibberish and he can't finish a single fucking thought.
You must have a good reason for having such a high criteria for what constitutes "an aberration".
but hitler is provocative, it gets people going
That's why you can have a Democrat running around hand in hand with Liz Cheney while the corporate media cheers.
Hitler is easy to fixate on as a bad guy because he's an evil dead foreigner. Cheney is harder
Culture of obedience within a society coupled with lack of critical thinking.
Also, genocide is good when the Israeli Jew does it!
Don't be an anti Semite 🤡
First of all, fuck Israel, it’s a disgusting, genocidal, colonialist state. But with that said, unironically, your message comes across as quite anti-semitic, because you went to some deliberate effort to write “Israeli Jew”. Why? There are loads of jews in Israel who are our allies in opposing the Israeli state’s genocide.
Israel is genocidal and is itself anti-semitic. Conflating Israel with judaism is anti-semitic, and more than anyone else, we should all know better than to do this right-wing dog whistle shit.
Turning up the controversy to 11: there is a double standard in people blaming other religions for everything but not allowing criticism of Judaism. Even on Lemmy people will gladly insult Islam and Christianity but criticism of Judaism is a taboo.
This is a good recent video pointing out how far the double standard goes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taIyXzFx2oo
I do agree that there is no real benefit to using the term Judaism for Israel. Zionism has created their own subsect which is a nation-state movement rather than a religion.
You know what really, really, really sucks?
All of this. Take the titles and names of the religions away. Make up new words. Call them all whatever you want to and you know what they all have in common?
Their humanity.
Any of us would be animals under the right circumstances. All of history says exactly that.
I wish we could find a way to do away with all of it.
Even then though, atheist states have committed mass murder. It isn’t just religion, it’s humanity. Isn’t that sad?
If we erased all of our history tomorrow and gave humans a damn Nintendo and a handful of cartridges, we’d be killing each other over Mario bros in 100 years.
I really wish I was just sitting in a dirty house in West Virginia, breathing exclusively from my mouth, saliva dripping at my feet. I wish I didn’t see humanity for what it is.
What really, really sucks is that we could drop this crap and get along if we were truly intelligent. We aren’t. We’re herds of bloodthirsty animals making things up so we can FEEL like we have meaning.
Oh well.
That’s interesting, I wonder if there’s some historical precedent that may make people slightly more concerned about anti-semitism rather than anti-christian sentiment.
Fuck all religions, criticise Judaism all you want. But if you start talking about jews (or Christians or Muslims) as if they’re some sort of monolithic group, you’re being an asshole.
Edit: Holy shit, I watched the first 10 seconds of that video and the guest said “Jewish supremacy is the biggest threat to the world today”, which is one of the most overt, outrageously anti-semitic statements I’ve heard in the 21st century. Whoever that guy is, he should not be allowed on TV or YouTube, holy fuck.
Okay now continue watching the rest of the video and do keep that outrage you had about Judaism in the back of your mind.
See if you have that same outrage when guests on Piers say similar things about other religions as the presenter shows examples of.
There’s no way I’m watching any more of that absolutely disgusting bile. I hate Piers Morgan, he’s a horrible, racist, piece of shit. I’m just as outraged about people being islamophobic. People being islamophobic doesn’t mean that we should accept anti-semitism, what kind of backwards argument is this?
Yes, genocide only happened to the jews, no other group has ever suffered either...
The entire WW2 history is not being used to excuse genocide conducted by Israeli jews.
People are dying but you are buthurt because criminals being named lol
Yeah i never get this clown responses when i shit on islam and catholic church being pedophiles... but god forbid country of war criminals get closed for what they are.
Are we supposed to ignore that that this genocide is ethnic/religious flavour to it?
It's a self-identified religious apartheid state. You say it for the same reason you'd talk about Irish Catholics versus Irish Protestants, or Hinduvistas, or Radical Islamic Terrorists.
The Arabs aren't the ones bombing Gaza, blockading the ports to induce a famine, and systematically raping captives.
genocide is being perpetrated by Israeli jews and israeli propaganda network comes down to any criticism of genocide as antisemitism.
i am mocking this clown set up...
wtf is u talking about again?
Why can’t you just say “genocide is being perpetuated by Israel”, why do you have to make it about jews?
because that is a more specific factually correct description of who is committing the genocide.
i doubt Israeli Arabs or muslims are doing much of anything to help here but who who bootlickers are everywhere. but all of the top brass are israeli jews, people in IDF are israeli jews gloating on social media about it. are these people are above being criticized? There is a huge religious/ethnic angle to this whole crime.
totally false, it is the state itself that is conducting the genocide. this is like saying that americans are responsible for the genocide because they voted for trump or harris
Well, aren't they? If a whole populace democratically votes for genocidal maniacs, isn't that at least a little bit their fault? If Americans really didn't want a genocidal leader, surely they wouldn't go out of their way to vote one in?
No, not really, because the US elections aren’t free. More americans didn’t vote for them than did vote for them. So by your own metric, they didn’t go out of their way to vote for genocide
US elections are free.
They are however not compulsory and the majority decided to stay home.
Now we get to enjoy the freedom that abstaining from voting provides.
If they’re free, why did you vote for a candidate who supports genocide?
Does Elmo support genocide?
A disgusting apologist spotted...
German's dindu nuffin, mate 🤡
There is no state without people nor is there the IDF.
Without having support from the core population and bunch of willing participants in IDF, this would not be happening. Israeli jews support this with enough force for the state to be able to execute it.
Also, yeah US is about as guilt in here too since Israel will never be able to do this without US political cover and logistical/materiel support.
US jews along fundamentalist Christians are pushing this genocide too...
You can get away with anything when 99% of the voters don't actually care about the quality of the people we elect, and that's the US.