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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Every single Executive Order suggested by the author can be immediately repealed by Trump on day one.

The irreversible acts Biden could take are very limited. He could pardon without reversal, as well as provide funding to allies that will surely be cut off by Trump. He could also seat the remaining vacant judge positions before Trump takes office.

There may be more, but those are the only ones I can think of at the moment.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He should be issuing broad federal pardons for any of the political targets Trump is threatening. Hell, he should issue broad pardons for all journalists. Anyone who has past found themselves on Trump's enemies list should get a full pardon now.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Will pardons prevent the executions?

Nothing will matter under law when he becomes a dictator and terminates the constitution on day one.

There is only one way to stop this.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How exactly does he terminate the constitution on day 1? I acknowledge that our constitutional protections are under threat, but he really doesn't have the power to discard it, just to seek judges that don't care about it.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Insurrection act.

Marshall law.

Etc.

He's already said this.

Plus with all the control in congress and R states I'm pretty sure that can call for that constitutional convention they've been dreaming about.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

Oh you sweet summer child

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Option 1, SCOTUS deems that the constitution "isn't actionable" like they did with the 14th amendment already.

SCOTUS already defied the constitution by allowing Trump to run. People think a third term isn't feasible for some reason. They've also made decisions based on completely theoretical cases. Stopping SCOTUS requires 2/3 of congress which isn't happening.

Option 2, the president does whatever he wants and SCOTUS simply allows it all to happen as they have consistently done.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden should pardon the entire prison population, except for J6 convicts and other Republican extremists, and then wish Trump "good luck".

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Let's leave actual violent criminals in there 😅

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you look through that list, some of those things are easy to undo, and some are not. For example, revoking people’s citizenship would be pretty involved and would be a giant shit show.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah. The newly Republican controlled Congress can legislate denaturalization bills.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C4-1-5-1/ALDE_00013170/

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agreed, but they would have to pass legislation and imagine the protests and media shit storm Trump would face if he started revoking citizenship. It would be a massive time and energy suck for the GOP.

I’m all for anything Biden can do that will distract this Congress and administration from being able to do other shit.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The current Congress is far less effective with split control than the fully Republican controlled Congress we have coming. The President can veto congressional legislation, but does not have the authority to redefine their power.

Trump wouldn’t be the one revoking citizenship. It would be Congress. He’ll just point the finger.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Why are people still discussing parliamentary bullshit like this? The man promised to be a dictator. He will have absolute power.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup, I understand that. But he would have to get alignment from the few moderate republicans and senators in border states to start revoking citizenship. The GOP will have a slim majority and it will have its Joe Manchin to contend with. Old school republicans like Collins, Murkowski, Curtis are going to have a LOT of power.

Moreover, if you start kicking Americans out of America, that shit is going to be a media cluster fuck. New immigrants and kids of immigrants that voted for Trump will be forced ask “who’s next?”

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What does he care? He’s not getting elected again. If he has a third term, it’ll be through systemic manipulation, not election.

Congress doesn’t need gubernatorial support to denaturalize. They can use the Naturalization Act of 1906 to change the requirements for qualifying for or maintaining naturalization, allowing for immediate revocation of citizenship and subsequent deportation.

”there must be strict compliance with all the congressionally imposed prerequisites to the acquisition of citizenship. Failure to comply with any of these conditions renders the certificate of citizenship ‘illegally procured,’ and naturalization that is unlawfully procured can be set aside.”

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What the fuck does the law matter when they'll literally just be deporting people by the millions and not letting them back in?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m referring to denaturalizing existing citizens to be deported, which has been an unused congressional power since 1906.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Why do you think they have to pass legislation? We just overwhelmingly elected a man who promised to be a dictator.

Do you not know how dictatorships work?