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[–] SSJ3Marx@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The failure that will forever define Bernie's political legacy will be not turning the energy that was behind him in 2020 into a more permanent movement. He just gave the phone bank and email lists to the Dems and fell in line.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 weeks ago

...the progressive movement held our collective noses and reacted to an existential crisis for the preservation of american democracy in the face of imminent fascism, and the coalition succeeded at that goal for a short while, but only just...

[–] mranachi@aussie.zone -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a failure, he made a choice. In hindsight we see it as the wrong choice, but we don't know what the alternative is. We will never know if it was right or wrong, failure or success.

Nothing is ever so simple.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a failure unless his goal was for his movement to fizzle out and flounder.

[–] mranachi@aussie.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't be obtuse.

To fix your logic "It would be a failure if his goal was to keep his movement alive at any cost". That clearly wasn't his goal.

Or have I missed the point entirely, and this is not a discussion but some point scoring thing based on digestible one liners.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Bernie didn't keep his movement alive nor did the Democrats win in 2024. Something clearly was wrong with what he was trying to do.