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Bernie Would Have Won (www.dropsitenews.com)

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not impressed by this analysis.

It doesn’t account for those who stayed home.
It doesn’t account those who would have voted for Sanders instead of Trump if that option were actually available to them.
Who did they think would be excited to volunteer to canvass for Democratic genocidaires? The DNC knowingly forfeited their ground game.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I really cannot see how anyone who would vote for trump would vote for sanders. its like apples and poison ivy. I don't get those who don't vote in a democracy either. I hate living in this eroding time period but way the hell glad to be living when democracy is considered the standard form of government. On tope of it we get to vote for the office, and get to vote for people to run for the office, and can sign signatures to get people on the ballot to run for office. I feel like people really don't have a good sense of human history.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We literally saw it happen. It is well documented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I just don't see it. They could not be more different to me. I have no idea what measure these people are using that they would flip between those two. so I get they exist but its so outside my perspective I can't grok the individual who is like that. Its like flat earthers for me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

They couldn’t be more different to me, either, but what we think is irrelevant. Whatever their reasons, and no matter how alien those reasons might be to you and me, significant numbers of people really did flip.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

That's how the petty bourgeoisie rolls.

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie would raise wages, Trump will give tax cuts. The promise is that people will have more than the minimum. Biden/Harris were telling everyone the economy is great when we all knew it wasn't and we're all worse off than we were 4 yeats ago.

Look at the material circumstances.

(Just... set aside that Trump's tax cuts mostly go to the rich. It's the narrative that sways voters more than the reality.)

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 33 minutes ago

I mean it was doing well vs what was given to them. Its still flabbergasts me the comments of trump for the economy and that biden caused inflation. Inflation started being unusually high in april 2021 and biden took office in january. He did not cause the inflation from 3 months as president. I mean if our system of government needs to run on narratives and not actual truth then I guess trump is the least of our problems.