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If you use uBlock origin you would never see it. I use both PiHole + uBlock origin and I would never see it lmao.
Pihole does nothing on YouTube as their ads are served on the save server as the videos.
I know, but they help with the ads on the website itself. Not the videos.
But you have ublock? It's just redundant at that point.
Pihole works wonders for mobile apps in general. Especially games. Ublock and pihole are similar but different enough to use both. Yes, ublock is overall better for browsers. But for network wide coverage, including smart TV'S, mobile apps, iot stuff like ring cameras etc.
I agree with this since I myself use PiHole, but it is redundant on a browser which uses ublock - and that was my original point.
Piehole would be the “whole house/device” Adblock protection. Ublock is the one device Adblock. Fair to use both in my opinion.
What? PiHole doesn’t block YouTube ads yet. It’s needed. Having two Adblock’s isn’t a problem either.
no it's not. It's convenient, but not needed. Same goes for adblockers, they are not needed, but are very convenient.
Yes it is. Is there any advantage to having 4 different adblock extensions on your browser? No, it only increases the attack surface to your browser. PiHole is useful for everything but web browsing since you can use an adblocker, such as ublock origin.
It would help on other websites and on some in-app ads from mobile devices
Yes but on the same browser it is redundant.
Redundancies being a bad thing is a very capitalist point of view.
how? lol
In a capitalist POV, redundancy is just unneeded cost for things that are "not needed".
In an engineering POV redundancy is insurance to make sure things work as needed even when part of the system fails.
For example, Apollo flight computers were triple redundant, and the outputs from all three were compared before being fed into engines. If two outputs would be 0.98, but one was 0.12, it's most likely that the third one is wrong and should be discarded. This makes it very likely that correct control intput is given to the engines all times and the whole thing would not crash and burn because of a random bit flip.
uBlock is NOT redundant as many ads today are not served from 3rd party domains. PiHole is redundant as it doesn't do crap.
do you realise that ublock origin blocks ads from remote domains right? Enable "I am an advanced user" and be shocked to see how many external resources it allows and blocks.
Did you even read my comment?
Did you read mine? Like how fucking stupid are you to just regurgitate my exact point.
I think the main issue of your comment was that you may be mistaking what redundant means.
How do you know that? I’m fairly certain that google can tell if they have served you an ad, and cutting off access to their streaming services seems like a straightforward thing from their point of view. How could ublock (or anything) prevent google from blocking the stream? It’s not about blocking ads, or blocking messages to turn your adblocker off. It’s about google acknowledging that they haven’t served you an ad. You can’t force them to serve a video, I don’t think.
This “feature” is being rolled out slowly, which probably means they are taking lots of telemetry about how users try to circumvent this. It also means that just because you or I haven’t seen it does not mean we are safe against it. I’m not saying there is no solution, but I don’t think the solution is an adblocker or a sinkhole.
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/7636#issuecomment-1619437317
Interesting! So if I'm understanding correctly, the scare about YouTube stopping adblocked users was being caused by the Enhancer for Youtube extension? If so, that's a relief.
Uhhhhh not quite, the fact that we're probably not going to see the "stop blocking ads plz" message doesn't mean that Youtube can't block access to their website with an adblocker. It's entirely possible, there are websites that already do it.
Not really. The “Enhancer for YouTube” was causing problem with the YouTube anti-block to show up. So disabling what effectively allowed uBlock to block those anti-Adblock notices. I think they now fixed the issues with “Enhancer for YouTube” extension.