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I'm hearing alot about the structural flaws of First past the post voting these days. Glad to see more people talking about the topic. Let's start making plans to fix this once and for all so people are free to vote how they want.

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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m having a hard time understanding the distinction of the voting method how its outcome differs from popular. I kinda feel like I get that there is a difference, but it’s not clicking. I’m probably just too tired.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

First Past The Post voting (What most states use currently)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

Alternative vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Ranked Choice voting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2fRPRkWvY

Range Voting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GFG0sXIig

Single Transferable Vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XOZJkozfI

STAR voting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-mOeUXAkV0

Mixed Member Proportional representation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0I-sdoSXU

[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So imagine there's three parties up for election. Party A gets 40% of the vote, Party B gets 30%, and Party C gets 30%.

In this scenario with first-past-the-post, Party A wins because they get the majority. This means 60% of voters (also known as the majority) had no impact on the election because their candidates are thrown away.

On the surface, proportional voting might look similar. But when you consider the highly gerrymandered state of voting districts, you start to realize that the deck is stacked in a very unfair way.

This is sort of how you wind up in a situation where a candidate wins the election despite not attaining the popular vote - although as I understand it that has more to do with the electoral college (which frankly, also seems undemocratic)

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 12 points 4 days ago

Party A gets 40% of the vote

Party A wins because they get the majority

Just going to point out, 40% is not a majority. In this case they have a plurality.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I read more than once, though have never fact checked, that no republican ever got elected had the popular vote, only through the electoral college’s undemocratic system did they ever get elected. Anyone know if this is accurate?

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Its not true, but the only time a Republican presedential canditate has got a majority of the votes in the 21st century is GWB in 2004. In the 20th century the winner in every election was the one who got the most votes, D or R.