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Cross-posted from "Arnold Schwarzenegger endorses Kamala Harris: ‘I will always be an American before I am a Republican’" by @Powderhorn@beehaw.org in !politics@beehaw.org


“I will always be an American before I am a Republican,” he wrote. “That’s why, this week, I am voting for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. I’m sharing it with all of you because I think there are a lot of you who feel like I do. You don’t recognise our country. And you are right to be furious.”

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[–] False@lemmy.world 199 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Spoken like a true republican.

I'll take that over whatever MAGA is.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

MAGA is just another level of republican. Like in dragonball, MAGA is nearly the final form, but the final form is fascism.

[–] rimmedalpha@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I forgot about the unironic "hide your power level" Chan shit.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Six million wasn't enough for these people.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

I disagree, but only because I equate MAGA and facism. They look exactly the same to me, MAGA just hasn't had the opportunity to exercise their fascist views in full.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Excerpts from a short piece, called "Back to the Wall," by a famous writer; abridged:

The individual soul is under attack...
Ten years ago it may have been inconceivable that the great sweet "cassaba melon" as it was called of "American Century" prosperity was really a great psychic hoax a mirage of electronic mass-hypnosis...
The choice given - or CHOSEN? by us between an oldfashioned politician..., which is to say conservative, and an outright Authoritarian rightwinger? We never had a choice between middle and left, we were always stuck between middle and right. Finally it becomes too much to fight. But the stakes are too great to lose...
To live in a country which supposedly dominates the entire planet and to be responsible for the outrages of ones Own country! Woe to the Germans silent under Hitler woe to the Americans silent now.
Not a matter of Policy, rational discourse etc.
Things no longer merely out of proportion, things are UNREAL. Manipulating the unreal from centers of power - how can the soul endure?
Movie blather, news broadcast blather ... social blather of a totally maladjusted tribe engaged in struggle to retain power-dominance and control over an entire planet (nay an entire solar system!)

He also mentions a "synchronistic putch." The writer is called Allen Ginsberg and this piece was published 1966.
Which is to say, the Overton window has been shifting for a long time and Nazism has never been truly defeated, only forced to hibernate. And certainly not just in the US. At least that's my pessimistic conclusion at this point.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 127 points 6 days ago (1 children)

MAGA is fascism, full stop. That’s not just my opinion – if you can read this list with honesty and not conclude they’re fascists, you’re lying to yourself:

  1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
  2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
  3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
  4. Supremacy of the Military
  5. Rampant Sexism
  6. Controlled Mass Media
  7. Obsession with National Security
  8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
  9. Corporate Power is Protected
  10. Labor Power is Suppressed
  11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
  12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
  13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
  14. Fraudulent Elections (or claims thereof)

It’s outright fascism. That is not hyperbole. And fascism is always a suicide cult. It destroys everything it touches, including itself.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

7. Obsession with National Security

I think they've quietly dropped this one, since they don't seem to mind Trump being owned by a Russian dictator, his son-in-law getting two billion dollars from the Saudis, or Trump stealing classified documents and casually leaving them lying around for foreign agents to help themselves to.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Once he’s back in office, though, this will be one of their main foci again. They’ll go all in on Patriot Act II, barring all foreign entry on the grounds of national security. They basically say that now, just with different words. No more asylum seekers, no more immigrants (which will crash the economy, and they’ll somehow blame that on immigrants, too).

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They'll still sell our land to the Chinese.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

But they would nationalize that land in a few years. Great money maker. You can resell the land again too.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

The man literally said he would start deporting millions on day one.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Oh they let more than that drop. Remember just earlier where they said democrats/government engineered the hurricane, yet at the same time humans cannot affect the climate?

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 days ago

I remember Romney saying Russia is our primary adversary during his debate with Obama, and Obama laughing it off as old school.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Religious extremism.