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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you mean you were using the historical definitions, a social safety net is not a means of production. Government-run factories or mines would be socialist, although some purists insist that it's not socialist until there's no private ownership left at all.

If you mean you were using the popular definitions, sure, people like government services. Volt also likes government services.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Services fall under "Means of production". So yes, these safety nets are part of socialism. Taxes going back to the people as well.

I don't want to try and figure out the perfect semantics for all of this.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 20 hours ago

You're right, it's not worth it to argue about definitions any more.