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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 175 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

i think the real indictment is how we treat people who refuse to participate and die for the profit of the already rich; the government treats them with imprisonment while the rest of us treat them like a coward for standing up for themselves in thoroughly fucked up system..

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah... That type of brainwashing is so commonplace now though. Just look at how the US is treating striking dock workers, people keep talking about how they make xxx,xxx and not how the ceos make xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx like it's the workers being greedy... πŸ₯²

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The keyboard warriors instantly became experts on labor negotiations /s, even though they seemingly haven't had the elementary realization that demands are movable in a negotiation, and you don't negotiate by saying "oh, I actually make quite enough money compared to poor workers in Alabama with no union representation and I love the current benefits thank you kindly, sir".

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's how you end up arguing whether any sick time is on the table and then the government steps in and says no sick time now back to work. Don't ask for just any sick time. Ask for fucking 2 months of paid leave for all workers and a $300,000 salary.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't "now" that shit; the US has always treated striking workers like shit, which is the reason workers need to strike in the first place.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're just a bundle of joy. Bet people like having you around at parties.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm actually a blast at parties, mostly because I don't get into politics at a party unless some jackass is being loud with his bigotry.

I also know how to breathe fire, that's usually a big hit

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

😴 Sure buddy. Sure. You're the coolest narcissistic asshole I know.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

During WWII in Britain, about 10% of the men drafted were sent down into the coal mines instead of being sent off to war. In addition to enduring the horrific conditions of the mines, they had to endure abuse for not fighting. For bonus points, the old-time miners would often haze these draftees by letting their elevator cages free-fall for a bit during their first trips down.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There were also the Order of the White Feather during WWI in the UK (and I'm sure other variations in other countries at the time). They were women who would walk around and try to shame young men into enlisting, or they would present a white feather to men who weren't in uniform to highlight their "cowardice."

Some of the men these women gave feathers to were on leave from the front lines, or even home after being discharged from some horrific injury sustained on the front. My personal favorite: article.

[...] none more so than Seaman George Samson who received a feather when he was on his way to a reception held in his honour to receive the Victoria Cross as a reward for his bravery at Gallipoli.

Especially amazing because it was pretty damn rare to still be alive to receive a Victoria Cross.

They were women who would walk around and try to shame young men into enlisting, or they would present a white feather to men who weren’t in uniform to highlight their β€œcowardice.”

If that were to happen today, you can give them the white feather and say "Why aren't you serving?"