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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

ahh yes because wm blades are just piling up.

non solution to a non problem.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 10 hours ago

Exactly what we probably said for plastics. And here we are now. The logic of, it's just a "small" amount, why bother is so wrong. What good is to piling trash?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In comparison to waste from all traditional energy sources, decommissioned blades are indeed an insignificant problem, but hey, improvement is improvement! :)

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

improvement is improvement

Yeah I don't agree with that. It's a complete distraction and irrelevant, it adds confusion to a ley audience by implying this was something that needed addressing.

We've got some real problems; a preponderance of windmill blades sounds like a made up rw talking point: responding to or producing articles like this offers a validation that the counterfactual doesn't warrant.

It is actually problematic to spend time, effort, and other people's attention and understanding making weird defensive claims to non issues.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think you're right that the blade problem is mostly used in the context of right-wingers trying to tarnish and muddy Wind's image, but I don't see it as particularly negative for media to be made that highlights the fact that they could eventually become biodegradable. IMO it puts a cap on any right-wing jab by having an easily linkable response that effectively says "Well, that claim will soon be moot anyway." And it can again be emphasized that in proportion, it's not a problem to begin with.

But also, bear in mind this is a Solarpunk community, and we're pretty into reducing as much waste as possible while putting up as much alternative energy as possible, so the fact that even that small amount of waste can be eliminated is something we would appreciate knowing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem is that it validates the claim to offer a "solution" (it isn't) to the "problem" (it isn't). It's counter productive to validate the claim by offering this retort. It's also not even the second time I've seen this being trotted out. It's at least the third, maybe fourth.

I'd be more than happy with seeing these things repurposed into something useful. If we're in a position where windmill blades are littering the landscape because we have a preponderance of cheap/ free/ non polluting energy, that's a good thing.

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Assuming this is a non-issue like you say, I still don't see why that makes this a problem?

It is actually problematic to spend time, effort, and other people's attention and understanding making weird defensive claims to non issues.

Why? This makes it seem like we can only concentrate on one issue at a time and that by making biodegradable blades we're somehow stopping something more 'worthwhile' from happening? We can do multiple things at once. Even if this makes only a minor difference, I still don't see why that's a bad thing? Surely any attempt to improve things is a good thing, no?