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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 96 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

If you absolutely have to hand over your phone, turn it off completely, like hold the power button and then tap the off icon. That will dump any keys out of RAM, which is why it always requires the full password to unlock when you turn it back on. Both in terms of how your phone works and the leaks we've seen, the cracking tools the police have are overall significantly less likely to be successful when used on a phone that's been turned off and not unlocked since.

Also, IIRC iphones have a feature where they will dump at least some of the system keys from RAM if you push the lock button five times. I'd still trust fully off more but that's easier to do covertly.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

Also on Android press the power button and volume up button simultaneously, and then press lockdown.

[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Five times wanted to set off an emergency service call and sound the alarm 🚨 YMMV (Pixel 7)

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 17 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Additionally, with the Pixel 9 holding down the power button no longer turns it off, you have to press power and volume up at the same time to get to the power menu.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That can be changed in the settings

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I had no idea... thank you! It's always a crapshoot if I take a screenshot or get into the power settings. So bizarre.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

power and volume down does screenshots

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Power and Volume DOWN would make infinitely more sense for “power DOWN” function.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

There's usually a hardware level power off function for when the device freezes and stuff. Can usually hold the power button for ~10 seconds will power off the device without needing to look at the screen

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Holding the power button for 1 second also opens the menu.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

My country has made it illegal to not give your keys.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like it's time for the deniably encrypted phone.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

What county is this, so I know to avoid it?

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Some European one.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Can’t I just say I forgot my pin? They can’t prove I don’t have a shit memory.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That only works if you're rich

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Classic quality Land

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can use that argument but it will depend on if they believe you.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

How can they prove guilt? Innocent until proven guilty under English common law, right?

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

It's not about guilt. It's about whether or not you know the password. In most cases not knowing the password will be deemed improbable because the chances are extremely low. You'll have to provide a scenario where it becomes probable, and said scenario must be deemed probable as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A lot countries have this now.

Even for a number of countries where it's not technically enshrined in law, police can still effectively do it anyway, by detaining you for as long as they like until you comply.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The solution is to simply shit yourself, without breaking eye contact, while under their custody to assert dominance.