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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I’m no fan of Stein. I was years ago, but not anymore. But she seems very clear in the beginning, then equivocates in the middle then clarifies (kinda) towards the end— but the way the interviewer goes after her seems like she’s being evasive in a way that doesn’t come across in the textual reading.

Is there an audio and/or video clip of this interview?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Thanks for the link, but I deleted my account years ago. No worky for me.

If anyone could link something else, I’d be quite grateful. 👍

Edit: here’s a link:

https://xcancel.com/mehdirhasan/status/1835761859838038350

Also— I don’t read her as being so much pro-putin as she is trying to be “stateswoman” and also being terribly unprepared. Just a total flop. She seemed like she was trying to be very reasonable, and she was just destroyed by the interviewer who was unrelenting on a single question that she was not prepared to answer.

I’m not apologizing for her. It was probably the one and only question she should have been prepared to answer right off the bat. And how she fumbled it was extremely damaging to her.

She did answer, but her answer got lost in the mess of it all. And that interviewer was being a very aggressive.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

if you don't mind commentary and a higher speed its captured on Destiny's Youtube channel. https://youtu.be/ekZ53AF8tOM?t=140

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

He wasn't being a dick. He was doing what journalists should do. If she answers with an extremely simple, "yes" every single time Netanyahu and Biden come up but literally every single time he asks about Putin she can't just say, "yes." Every single time she qualifies a yes or hedges without a yes. She doesn't with the others.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I misspoke. He was just being aggressive

I edited my comment

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

She had no problem with Biden and Netanyahu, but avoids a direct answer over Putin. It is painfully obvious

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that she’s being evasive

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for being reasonable

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, sure. I only wanted to hear all of this in context— and it doesn’t really help her position IMO.

It really shouldn’t be so hard to very clearly denounce Putin. She makes it seem like a real chore. Like, she has to be squeezed into saying it, and even then, it’s still a little unclear.

I think, to some degree, she’s trying to be diplomatic, but more importantly, she’s coming off as weak to international powers that she should be standing up to. Even if she isn’t some Russian shill, she should be standing up to Putin in a resolute manner that she is failing to do here, and kind of always.

In a very kind reading of Jill Stein, if she wants to take a more diplomatic approach to eastern powers, she needs to learn how to stand up to them. She’s a poor choice just because of how incredibly weak she is in her positions and diplomacy.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

While we may not agree on her trying to be diplomatic, this is very well said

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks.

Again, I’m no fan of hers and certainly won’t be voting for her. I was just trying to be fair.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I get it, and to an extent I can appreciate it, but personally I can never give these people any benefit of the doubt

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

What I’m trying to show is that, even with the benefit of the doubt, she still sucks.

Honestly, on the merits— she’s awful.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That is fair. Apologies for the misunderstanding