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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that she’s being evasive

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for being reasonable

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, sure. I only wanted to hear all of this in context— and it doesn’t really help her position IMO.

It really shouldn’t be so hard to very clearly denounce Putin. She makes it seem like a real chore. Like, she has to be squeezed into saying it, and even then, it’s still a little unclear.

I think, to some degree, she’s trying to be diplomatic, but more importantly, she’s coming off as weak to international powers that she should be standing up to. Even if she isn’t some Russian shill, she should be standing up to Putin in a resolute manner that she is failing to do here, and kind of always.

In a very kind reading of Jill Stein, if she wants to take a more diplomatic approach to eastern powers, she needs to learn how to stand up to them. She’s a poor choice just because of how incredibly weak she is in her positions and diplomacy.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

While we may not agree on her trying to be diplomatic, this is very well said

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks.

Again, I’m no fan of hers and certainly won’t be voting for her. I was just trying to be fair.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I get it, and to an extent I can appreciate it, but personally I can never give these people any benefit of the doubt

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

What I’m trying to show is that, even with the benefit of the doubt, she still sucks.

Honestly, on the merits— she’s awful.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

That is fair. Apologies for the misunderstanding