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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I don't want that. I want full control and absolute privacy. I do not want your AI reading my emails. Look at that summary, it's as long as the whole email, and you're not going to be able to trust that it picked up on the most important part of the email. This is not efficiency, this is novelty.

[–] vort3@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then don't install the extension?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

So do you actually draw the line at Mozilla never building stuff like this into their browser, or is that a line you would be willing to cross too?

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“AI you can trust” …

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I won't trust the AI Mozilla uses until they show us the source data. Not the source code that consumes a massive binary blob; the stuff that generated the binary blob they are using.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not far enough. I won't trust it until I can build it myself and self-host it. Then if they provide reproducible builds and hashes of the currently running build, I can decide whether it's better to use their hosted version or my own.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I'd want both.

My biggest gripe is that when companies provide "source code," it often is technically reproducible and "works," but only with a gigabytes-large binary blob that cannot be debugged and will not be sourced.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

But but but … they said…

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, you can just... not install the extension then?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I won't. But my concern is that Mozilla is heading in the wrong direction lately, and I have used Firefox for a very long time.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We always told them we want things to be optional, and now this is an extension so I dunno. Seems they're listening?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, I'm glad this BS is an extension. I'm not happy that they're spending time on this vs projects people actually seem to want. AI appeared nowhere on the top-10 survey results, yet this is what they come up with. I just hope they didn't spend a ton of time on it.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Thing is, Pocket is also an extension. Just much less optional. If Mozilla makes this AI thing part of their flagship in a lot of the same ways. Possibly even more. It's not about what it is now, but rather what it means for the future of Mozilla and Firefox.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the email is longer than is shown, hence why the last sentence is cut off

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here's the summary of their example article (or perhaps the page?):

This email expresses a sarcastic and exaggerated perspective on the advancements and implications of Artificial Intelligence (AI). The author begins by expressing excitement about the technological marvels of AI, but then proceeds to poke fun at the complexity and convoluted nature of AI, its ability to predict our actions, and the replacement of human interaction with AI chatbots. The author also mocks the idea of AI-generated content and its ability to replicate human creativity, and the potential ethical concerns of relying on AI for decision-making. The email concludes with a sarcastic call to embrace the "glory" of AI and its potential to take over human autonomy. The tone of the email is light-hearted and humorous, but it also raises valid concerns about the role and impact of AI on our lives.

This isn't really a summary, there's some interpretation going on as well. I don't want AI to do any form of interpretation, but if it does so, it should be as metadata below the actual summary.

And honestly, I almost never get an email that I actually want to summarize. Most of them I can either completely ignore (corporate BS), or they're short and to the point. So it's weird to me that email is the first thing they mention.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

I did exactly this at work the other day. Someone had forwarded a full email thread to me and asked my opinion on it - they gave no summary or outline of the thread and expected me to read through it. I don't have time to read through a full thread and work out what they want from me so I copied it into chatgpt and asked it to summarise and tell me points that might need my attention. It was pretty good