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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

the price of Zen 4 has dropped, and the 7800X3D in particular looks compelling to those who might’ve wanted Zen 5.

This is the big one.

Literally the best gaming chip from any company is a Zen 4 and surprisingly cheap

For most people they won't need anything more than a 7800x3d for 5 maybe even 10 years?

I'd hate to say what GPU it takes to make cpu the bottleneck on one of those.

[–] MrSnrub@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed, I bought a 7950X3D over the 9950X as it was $150 cheaper. Seemed like the smarter move.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

I did the same thing also assuming kernel drivers were more mature. I’ll let someone else beta test for me.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

For most people they won't need anything more than a 7800x3d for 5 maybe even 10 years?

I know from experience, it is very difficult to get 10 years of gaming out of a processor. I'm a pretty frugal guy, and I'm actually ok with merely "acceptable" gaming performance, but I think the most I've ever managed was 8 years on the same processor, and that was with the core 2 duo. I called it the super chip, the chip that stayed competitive even when multiple new architectures were available. And honestly, 8 years was really pretty good. But when I switched to a quad core i5, it was definitely a necessary change.

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

idk I was using a 12 year old cpu and it worked fine for gaming. Only upgraded because I wanted to compile stuff in reasonable timeframes.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The Phenom 2?!

I barely remember it, but yeah, it was a beast.

But my 1700x went hard for five years. The only reason I tacked the extra 5 on was x3d changes things up.

Now, since I've made that comment AMD has solved the Zen 5 latency issues but cutting it by more than half. That's what was holding it back. So when the Zen 5 x3d comes out, it's going to be nuts.

But...

It's going to take a while for those changes to become industry standard. It might be a year before Zen 5 x3d, I'm not sure if they've even announced when. So games won't take full advantage of them right away.

It takes like a 4070 super to CPU bound a 7800x3d, and fine tune some settings and it'll balance out

We're not going to have a new screen resolution jump, and that combo can max out 4k 120fps on pretty much anything thanks to frame generation without even touching upscaling.

There's just not a lot to improve until we see a major jump like VR finally taking off.

I'm playing Satisfactory at High or Ultra settings 1440p ultrawide Lumen on with a Ryzen 7700x and a Radeon 7900GRE, and maintaining frame rates in the 80's. What is out now, or is in the works, that my machine can't run well?