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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Protect Donald Trump

Vote for Harris to enact common sense gun regulations.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd love for you to be right but Id say any national gun reform will be crushed by the Supreme Court or a split senate.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

I hope Harris is elected and has the brass ovaries to pack the court and give Roberts the finger.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

That's probably true. But one of these decades maybe we can figure it out. Not because of Orange. Because of the school shootings. Maybe. Eventually.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just gonna say it:

Donald trump is the single greatest argument for 2A rights we have ever seen.

Granted: We need at least some basic changes- universal background checks. waiting periods to let those happen. ban bump stocks. ban anything like bumpstocks.Trump being the best argument doesn't change that we need basic reform, and we've needed it for decades.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why?? Every time someone uses political violence the would be dictator becomes more popular and he can make the state more repressive. Even right now, there will be idiot undecided voters that will change their vote to him because some idiot tried to kill him. There are really no upsides to attempting to remove tyrants with guns.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you forget about the part where he started a fucking insurrection because he lost an election fair and square?

He's basically the reason the 2A exists- to act as a final measure against assholes like trump from coming to power.

(In the modern era, it's not a very good measure, don't get me wrong. Dudes with rifles- even LMGs- aren't going to hold out against dudes inside tanks and flying UCAVs dropping bombs... and I'm all for not-idiotic gun control. a firearm painted black is not "tactical"... or any more dangerous.)

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t believe that, even in the face of a full coup, (gun) violence will solve any issues. There’s just no way that a majority of people support a violent militia taking over power of the government, no matter how illegitimate some think that government is.

As examples, look at the recent coup attempt in Turkey, or the Wagner uprising in Russia. In both cases the violent uprisings were used by the dictator to cement his power. Guns will not help you.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I don’t know how clear I can be: it’s not a very good measure.

I’m not even saying it’s a good argument.

I’m saying Trump is the best argument for it.

It’s a question of irony. Most hardcore 2a weirdo’s support trump. Yet he’s the best argument for the 2a.

Make sense?