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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We need to treat every state as a battleground state

Presidential campaigns cost over a billion dollars these days, if that's not enough to campaign in 50 states, where the fuck is all that money even going.

A billion dollars is an insane amount, I legitimately don't understand how either party can claim with a straight face they need or even use close to that much

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The main reason Texas is not "in play" it's because everyone assumes it can't be "in play". Over 5 million registered Texans did not vote in 2020! Among them there is definitely 700k Democratic votes and that would be a landslide win for Harris.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Indiana is never "in play"...

Except when Obama carried the state ~~to the point they even got a Dem governor...~~

Then we started running moderates again for president, they got Pence who caused an HIV epidemic and then the whole country had to deal with him as VP.

The problem is what "red states" need to turn blue isn't what the DNC is willing to give.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Eh, Mitch Daniels wasn't a Democrat.

Was just about to come on here to say this. Joe Kernan was actually the last in a line of Dem govs of Indiana (following Evan Bayh and Frank O'Bannon)

I'm a bit surprised here that the OC (givesomef... ) admitted to his mistake, considering that in the past he's ignored similar requests for clarifications. E.g https://lemmy.world/comment/12300100 , https://lemmy.world/comment/12283806 , and especially https://lemmy.world/comment/12087110 (where giving a positive answer would have really helped me out).

(That said, I suppose I can understand ignoring something like "Citation needed" as not everyone wants to spend the time stay informed by looking things up and following up).

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, yeah I was off a couple years too. Mitch was in office before Obama was president.

To be fair though, Mitch Daniels seems more of a centralist in the mold of Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney, going off of his op-ed in the Wash. Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/18/republicans-democrats-one-party-state-rule/

Compared to who ended up as governor after him, I can easily see and excuse that kind of slip up.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of learned helplessness in Texas.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Part of it is because our congressional districts are drawn like a bowl of spaghetti. In statewide elections it matters less but congressional districs were specifically drawn to pack and crack votes here.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, plus all the effort by the entrenched Republicans to keep putting more and more hurdles between voters and the ballot box. And all the effort to drive vulnerable minorities out of the state with bigoted laws.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Hell, I'm a cishetwhite guy and I feel like they are trying to drive me out too.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 15 points 2 months ago

Absurdly wealthy media controlling billionaires donate to pacs who then spend the money on... media

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how many children could be fed with that money. Absolutely immoral.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Considering the "victory fund" nonsense effectively raised the per person cap to 960k this year. Just imagine how much good the taxes on it would have done if we actually fucking taxed the wealthy.

Then realize those donations is why we'll never tax the wealthy.

Politicians cut out the middle men and just collect it directly like the Catholics and Mormons do, get that 10% pre tax income...

Campaigning in all 50 states and treating all of them as battleground states are not the same thing. The latter is harder and more expensive.

As to why a billion is not enough, blame the SC for allowing Citizens United in 2010. After that the amount of money just got higher without end in this crazy arms race.