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Yes. Telling someone you will impregnate them against their will is a rape threat, and I'm disturbed that you don't understand why.
This is someone defending musk. They probably have no idea
That’s why it logically doesn’t make sense
Maybe they don't know how babies are made?
I'm thinking more that it's a "women don't get to have consent" thing at this point based on their most recent response.
Well isn't that lovely. Must be someone who got lost and found their way off reddit by accident.
We can hope that they'll grow and learn as a human being and stop perpetuating misogynistic perspectives. For their sake and ours.
He didn't say he was going to impregnate her against her will, did he? I'm disturbed that you think this has anything to do with a rape threat. It suggests a severe lack of judgement.
Again- do you think she wants to be impregnated by him? What do you call it when you impregnate someone and they don't want you to? I'm pretty sure there's a four-letter word with that that starts with R and ends with APE.
If you're going to pretend it's an actual rape threat, you're going to have to prove:
Good luck with any of that. He's a well known shitposter who makes rude jokes all the time. He almost certainly thought he was making a joke, which means it can't be considered a threat even if she felt threatened (which she didn't). She's a billionaire with a security detail and a football player as a boyfriend, so his ability to carry out any threat (if it had really been a threat) is nearly nonexistent. And, all evidence is that she just ignored him, not that she felt like she was ever in danger. You'd fail on all 4 prongs of that 4-prong test.
It's ridiculous that I'm seemingly defending an asshole like Musk, but when there are even bigger assholes out there like you, it's what has to be done. You can't just act like anything rude someone says is a rape threat. It's ridiculous, and it diminishes the suffering of people who actually are threatened with rape by lumping their suffering in with people who merely have to deal with rude things online.
Why do I need to prove any of that? Do you think I’m building a legal case?
Obviously not, you're just escalating something rude to the level of a rape threat so that you can diminish the suffering of people who are actually threatened with rape.
It's interesting how you've decided after all this time and after pretty much no one is on your side on this, you've decided to change tactics and accuse me of being some sort of rape apologist.
It's interesting how what you care about is whether what you said was popular, not whether it's actually a rape threat.
This is the second time you've tried to make this about me. It's not going to work.
It is about you. You're the one trying to get internet points by saying something popular when it clearly isn't true.
This isn't going to work, sorry.
You stopped getting internet points for your lies, so you give up?
You making this personal still isn't going to work no matter how many times you try, but feel free to keep trying to bait me.
You deny it is personal, but you lied to get internet points. Hard to make it more about yourself than that.
What did I lie about? Please quote the lie.
You claimed it was a rape threat, when I provided a test to show whether something was a threat or not, you ignored it because you claimed you weren't making a legal case. That shows you know it wasn't actually a threat, therefore you lied. And you lied to get internet points, so it's all about you.
Or, you know, I don't agree with what you consider to be a rape threat. Nah... it's not possible to legitimately disagree with you. People only do it for "internet points."
No, it's clear you lied, or you would have at least tried to prove it was a threat. You lied for internet points and by doing that you diminished the experiences of anybody who has actually been threatened with rape. But hey, you got your internet points, so good job.
Multiple other people in this post are also saying it's a rape threat, yet you only object to me calling it that and only expect me to prove it.
For example: https://lemmy.world/comment/12297410
Odd that it's okay with you when they do it.
Yes, you're not the only one lying for internet points. You're the one who decided to try to partially defend your supposed point of view, at least until I tried to get you to prove it, at which point you started lying some more.
Do you think it might just be possible that none of us are lying and that we just don't agree with you? I realize you're a perfect being and all, but maybe possibly we just have a sincere disagreement with you?
No, if you weren't lying you'd prove your point. You're lying for internet points and I caught you at it.
You don't have to prove an opinion. That's why it's an opinion. You're a very silly person.
When accusing someone of doing something, you have to back up your accusation with reasoning. You can't just say "grass is red" and if someone challenges you just say "well, that's just my opinion".
Why do I have to? Because you say so?
It's what an person would do if they were being honest. If someone's lying, of course they're not going to.
If you don't believe I'm honest about my opinion, oh well.
You know you're not being honest, I just showed that it's true because you refuse to provide any evidence to support your opinion.
I love this "everyone here is lying but me" thing you have going on. It's quite amusing.
Mostly just you though.
Nope. I didn't say anything different than the many, many people here and elsewhere who said it was a rape threat.
How difficult life must be for you when everyone is constantly lying to you.
Yes, many, many people piled on Elon Musk to defend Taylor Swift. Who could have seen that was a good way to get Internet points. Oh wait! That's you!
So all of them are sincere in their opinion that Elon Musk made a rape threat but I actually don't think it was a rape threat and am lying about it?
That's your absolutely insane conclusion here?