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[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Sorry, for the pedants out there, 'why don't all stadiums have parking garage systems instead of flat parking lots?'

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If land is cheaper than construction costs, then they build a parking lot. If construction costs are cheaper than land, they build a parkade

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you factoring in the opportunity cost of the wasted (poor optimized) space? Of all the extra fuel people have to burn to get around said wasted space? What about the long term environmental impacts? What is the value of a person's life (time) and what value do we put on the time that is taken from us because of wasteful sprawl?

Wasting land is only cheaper because the real costs get put on the rest of society and future generations.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't matter if I am; they aren't. MBAs can't see past the next fiscal quarter.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If the stadium is anywhere near an urban setting only bad design warrants the building of (massive) car parks - and everybody using cars to get there. Shopping centres warrant large car parks because people load up with items. Sports grounds need to get people in and out in tight windows - there’s no contest in car v rail in this respect.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Every IKEA I can think of has the garage in the building and they have many spots as well as people loading large items, so it's possible. For normal shopping centers I think it's also mostly indoor/underground stuff (Europe).

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah - between you and me - the real reason is like the castles, fortresses, monasteries and cathedrals of the past a stadium is built as a statement building. Uniquely identifiable as the cultural home of that tribe. I don’t think there’s ever been a trainee architect who wants to design parking garages when they grow up. Some stadiums are a triumph of form over function. Also the large empty surrounding flat areas enforce the impact of the architectural qualities by removing any outside context or reference… but you didn’t hear any of that from me.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know this is only one example but the Tampa Bay Lighting have a parking garage right across from the main entrance and use the wall facing the entrance as a viewing screen so even if you cant/don't get tickets you can still warch along out front and hear the roar of the stadium. There's a bar and everything out there

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I’m genuinely quite impressed with that whole idea… good on them. Thanks for letting me know.

[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Money. Costs more to build and costs more to maintain. I assume at the time many of them were built the land was cheap enough to not come close to offsetting it.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -3 points 3 weeks ago

For the pendants out there - they all do

Just not in one country

You're the exception, not the norm

Please note this is a satirical comment, and it's not my fault you have poor reading comprehension

I mean /s