Android
The new home of /r/Android on Lemmy and the Fediverse!
Android news, reviews, tips, and discussions about rooting, tutorials, and apps.
πUniversal Link: !android@lemdro.id
π‘Content Philosophy:
Content which benefits the community (news, rumours, and discussions) is generally allowed and is valued over content which benefits only the individual (technical questions, help buying/selling, rants, self-promotion, etc.) which will be removed if it's in violation of the rules.
Support, technical, or app related questions belong in: !askandroid@lemdro.id
For fresh communities, lemmy apps, and instance updates: !lemdroid@lemdro.id
π¬Matrix Chat
π°Our communities below
Rules
-
Stay on topic: All posts should be related to the Android OS or ecosystem.
-
No support questions, recommendation requests, rants, or bug reports: Posts must benefit the community rather than the individual. Please post to !askandroid@lemdro.id.
-
Describe images/videos, no memes: Please include a text description when sharing images or videos. Post memes to !androidmemes@lemdro.id.
-
No self-promotion spam: Active community members can post their apps if they answer any questions in the comments. Please do not post links to your own website, YouTube, blog content, or communities.
-
No reposts or rehosted content: Share only the original source of an article, unless it's not available in English or requires logging in (like Twitter). Avoid reposting the same topic from other sources.
-
No editorializing titles: You can add the author or website's name if helpful, but keep article titles unchanged.
-
No piracy or unverified APKs: Do not share links or direct people to pirated content or unverified APKs, which may contain malicious code.
-
No unauthorized polls, bots, or giveaways: Do not create polls, use bots, or organize giveaways without first contacting mods for approval.
-
No offensive or low-effort content: Don't post offensive or unhelpful content. Keep it civil and friendly!
-
No affiliate links: Posting affiliate links is not allowed.
Quick Links
Our Communities
- !askandroid@lemdro.id
- !androidmemes@lemdro.id
- !techkit@lemdro.id
- !google@lemdro.id
- !nothing@lemdro.id
- !googlepixel@lemdro.id
- !xiaomi@lemdro.id
- !sony@lemdro.id
- !samsung@lemdro.id
- !galaxywatch@lemdro.id
- !oneplus@lemdro.id
- !motorola@lemdro.id
- !meta@lemdro.id
- !apple@lemdro.id
- !microsoft@lemdro.id
- !chatgpt@lemdro.id
- !bing@lemdro.id
- !reddit@lemdro.id
Lemmy App List
Chat and More
view the rest of the comments
3 years of updates.....
I don't see it listed as supported by lineage OS. That tells me the bootloader isn't open.
In fact, when they forgot to lock the bootloader, they fixed it, and said there was a mistake and they will never make the bootloader available.
https://www.xda-developers.com/nokia-7-2-unlockable-bootloader/
So yeah, fuck these guys, oh look a consumer first repairable phone that you can't install software on f*** you (HMD/Nokia)
I would not be angry, except they're trying to market themselves as consumer friendly, tinker friendly, repairable. So not letting you run software, and only giving you 3 years of updates, is antithetical to that. It's such a contradiction it's an insult
It released one month ago. Even if the bootloader were unlockable, it wouldn't be officially supported by LineageOS yet. Someone actually needs to buy the phone, build for it and then maintain that build. For a popular custom ROM series like the Pixels or something, sure they will be supported very quickly, but other models often take quite a bit longer to be supported. Most people who buy this phone will not be buying it to immediately install LineageOS.
I agree with what you said. Lineage OS is not the only indicator, but it is a strong indicator. Do you have any evidence that the bootloader is unlocked?
Thanks for this comment.
Sounds very idiotic to say an android phone is repairable, as the main marketing point, and then lock the bootloader. This doesn't make sense to me, or most others I would presume.
Yeah my exact thoughts. Repairable phones are mostly useless if the vendor blobs don't get updated anymore after x years. Until we have an open ecosystem, as we have on desktop PCs, repairable phones are only good on paper.
The bar is so low, all they have to do is leave the bootloader unlocked, which they've done by accident already, and everyone would be happy and give them praise.
I don't know what they gain by keeping the bootloader locked, maybe somebody thinks it'll force new phone sales?
Yeah I've never had to change phones because I've broken my phone they always just stop being supported. Repairability is nice but continued support or a way to a different OS that is supported is much more useful
Exactly!
I am in the same boat right now. I still use a Pixel 4a. It's a great device, has exactly the size and performance I need, perfect condition but I don't get updates anymore. It's insane that in a time where resources get a real problem this is still allowed. If they can't support it at least force them to open source the software/drivers or something.
I believe the term is "greenwashing"
Yeah, this is such a scummy move by HMD. Allow boot loader unlocking if you are consumer friendly.
Apart from Fairphone there are really no other options. This is like a poor man's fairphone.
Fairphone is midrange too, but the upper mid range. nowadays 700$US is midrange sadly
Well.. I bought a Xiaomi (global) phone on a basis of it being unlockable... And after two months of unsuccessful attempts and useless back and forth with their support, I can only say: fuck Xiaomi too.
My experience with HMD 'phones':
I've had two USB C ports fail on HMD phones. I like the hardware, love the vanilla android, like the value, but I've never had a USB C port fail on anything else. I know it's just personal experience but it means I can't trust getting another again.
Yeah, that's what got my HMD made, Nokia branded, 7 plus. And from a search at the time this was a common problem
Yeah one was a 7 plus
I had great experiences with Moto phones - also good hardware for relatively cheap, vanilla OS with no additional apps except a few, actually useful, Moto apps.
Yeah I've had Motorola phones too but the updates drove me nuts. I'm just on pixel now.
Article also says to root the phone to install custom OS rather than an unlocked bootloader.