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I'm trying to lose weight and was told that hwo I eat about 800-1000 calories a day is too low and lowers my metobolism which will prevent weight loss. I've looked up some meal plans and can't really afford stuff like chicken breast, steak, or salmon every week. So that is why I'm wondering how I can eat 1500 calories a day. Are there some alternatives that I can do?

Also I'd like to ask, say I exercise and burn say 500 calories would I have to eat those calories back or no? I ask cuz I've been told yes and told no.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 110 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

800-1000 calories a day is too low and lowers my metobolism which will prevent weight loss.

If you do it for real for a while, nothing can prevent weight loss.

I've looked up some meal plans and can't really afford stuff like chicken breast, steak, or salmon every week.

Eat real vegetables and fruits. Fresh, where ever possible. You wouldn't believe how cheap you can feed yourself if you do your cooking yourself.

Avoid all processed food. Avoid all sugar.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Frozen fruits and vegetables are also fine. Canned fruits in heavy syrups – not fine.

If Chicken breasts are out of budget then Eggs, Egg Whites, or Beans are probably going to be needed to hit some kind of protein macros.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I usually go for frozen fruits and veggies since they are “fresher” lol

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 month ago

They unironically might be the freshest fruits and vegetables in the store! So same here

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah I usually do my best to eat vegetables and fruits whenever I can at least. And I'm trying my best to cut back on sugar it's hard lol but I'm getting there.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Liquid sugar is the worst, IMHO.

Things like soda, fruit juices, energy drinks,etc are way too easy to consume without realising just how much.

It's very easy to consume ¼ of a pound of sugar a day in just a few drinks.

Drink water.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yep water and matcha are my go tos for drinks.

And yeah I agree about the liquid sugars def considering trying to make natural juices at least

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I feel you, sugar is hard. I find it easier to eat a tiny bit of something sweet like once a week than to cut it altogether. My cravings are too strong when there's no vision of fulfilling them at least a bit :)

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

cut back on sugar

One type of snack/dessert I do: get a slice of high-fiber bread (toasted, or not), and put a bit of honey or jam on it. Much better than a pastry, bc I can control exactly how much sugar is there.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

what has worked for me is just trying to skip out on sugary stuff as often as possible and instead eating regular food that i really enjoy, eventually i just stop really craving sweets that much and now the only sweets i tend to want is stuff like cinnamon rolls and chips, which is more savoury than sweet honestly.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I’ve long said that the best place to loose weight is at the grocery store. You pretty much only ever go to the outside edge. Buy potatoes, onions, peppers, mushrooms, squash and zucchini, radishes, carrots and any other vegetables you like. Bulk is what works here. Then go buy what protein you can afford. Skip anything that has been processed beyond meat and milk.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If he's undereating, maybe some sugar in moderation. Humans need calories, maybe a granola bar or something

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes maybe, but strictly only the kind that you can see before you eat it (like, two pieces into your coffee)

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that because you know exactly how much you're using?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Yes.

And because this rule helps a lot with learning good habits.

[–] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

be carefull with rapid weight loss though, my ex got gout because of it

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Also gal bladder problems are a real threat when loosing weight quickly.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Avoid all sugar"

Right. Avoid fruits.

But seriously. Fruits have very little benefit for health. They have health benefits vegetables have, but with sugars also in them. Fruits are sugared veggies.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's such a dumb take. Fruits are like the second best thing after vegetables in their ration of satiation per calorie.

Added sugar is completely different beast from the sugar in fruits and vegetables.

You would need to eat an ungodly amount of fruits for it to be bad for your health.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're still in the "good for you" category, but completely unnecessary for health. Anything you can get from fruit you can get from vegetables and it reduces your sugar intake that way.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point, we can boil down everything to a nutrient paste with no flavor to be healthy. But very few people would be able to endure that.

This is a terrible advice to not eat fruits when trying to lose weight. The diet fatigue is real, and eating an apple can at least take off the edge when its getting harder in the later weeks. I know it did for me when I wanted to eat junk food.

And the goal is also to develop healthy habits, and having fruits add to the variety of available food.

I mean, you are technically correct, but it won't help anyone trying to change their lifestyle.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you bothered reading anything OP has posted? They're having issues getting up to 1500 calories a day and getting enough protein. Fruit won't help them as much as pecans, veggies, avocado, some carbs, and eggs. Feeling full off fruit isn't an issue they want.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

You are the one with reading skills issue. OP said he doesn't have money for the meal plans items.

Depending on where you are, eating fruits and veggies in season will be a lot less expensive and somewhat satiating if mixed with inexpensive fats and proteins.

Nuts are expensive as hell, avocado are expansive as well. Even super greens are getting expensive.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sugared veggies is good. As you say, fruits do have the health benefits vegetables have, which is not "very little". They're full of minerals, vitamins, antioxidants, and above all, fiber. Sugar is not all bad either. Evolutionalrily, we probably like sugar exactly because it is present in fruits and eating fruits is beneficial for us. If you ate only fruits all day, then it would be bad for you, but I'm pretty sure in reasonable amounts fruits are an important part of a healthy diet.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your mostly correct, except there are no fruits that are an important part of a healthy diet. You can have some as a treat or whatever, but they are not important, and simply do what veggies do, but with a spike of sugar.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Vegetables are just fancy nutrients, that's why I only eat a flavourless calorie paste that contains all my essential vitamins.

[–] Alienmonkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Measuring and establishing some boundaries by plant, rather than type, could be useful to op.

Peppers and carrots can be higher in sugar than expected. Relative to their positive flavor impact on a salad, a cutup strawberry or two adds only a small amount.

Grouping plants into fruit or veg might not be effective for calorie monitoring. Would need to know what they want to eat, and search for nutrition info. Thus a plan.