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Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future of the world? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.

In fact, global instability has been markedly worse in the four years since.

which president's administration directly attacked Europe with the Nord Stream II bombing?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.

Except that time a million and a half people died and literally the whole country had to stay inside collecting unemployment and washing our groceries while all of his followers got super amped up and violent because they weren’t (always) being allowed to make things worse

And that little bonus surprise at the end and how a sizable portion of the country including some important judges hates elections and anyone who makes them happen now

I mean there’s more but those are good starters

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Under Trump America withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal. I'd say that move did negatively affect today's global stability.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was four years of Trump and nothing particularly bad happened.

He didn't really have a plan for his first term. That's why he only was able to do a few bad things. This time around there is a plan.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The plan just seems to be more standard American bullshit. Which would happen no matter who was president. Remember how genocide Joe was going to save democracy? Instead the creepy bastard murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't classify Project 2025 as "more standard American bullshit".

It's basically a guide on how to turn the USA into a fully fascist country within one presidential term.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between fascism and full fascism? A distinction without a difference.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I put that in so people don't come out of the woodwork to tell me that the US already have some fascist tendencies.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

The US is already fully fascist.

[–] kiara@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

actually, it would seem that the nordstream attack was a bipartisan effort, with the plan already having gotten support under Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFdHO7FH8w&t=1260

interviewer: what's your relation like with vladimir putin? donald trump: i think it's very good, but i was tough with him. i ended the pipeline. it was called nordstream 2.