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[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It’s not just Manchin that voted for it, other Democrats did too.

Heads up for those that follow it (aka trans folks), Biden took a turn on trans rights as well. He now supports bans on “gender affirming surgeries for trans kids”. Which is where Republicans started their crusade to try to ban all gender-affirming care for trans folks. (Yes, I know that slippery slope isn’t a valid argument, but in this case they actually started there and what they are now advocating for).

And people wonder why so many gender non-conforming folks are refusing to vote for Biden.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  1. We all know that "gender affirming surgeries" aren't being performed on minors. Publicly being against something that doesn't happen seems more like a calculated way to get support from ~~morons~~ low-information voters.

  2. Like literally everyone who isn't a rich white Christian man, trans lives will get significantly worse under Trump. Rational self-interest should be reason enough to vote for Biden.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gender affirming surgeries are given to cis minors all the time. We just call it plastic surgery.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Obviously in this context we're talking about gender affirming surgeries for trans children, not Aughbreylynn's dad buying her bolt-ons for her 16th birthday.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

They are being performed in very low numbers (like single digits in the country, and in very extreme cases). But it shouldn’t matter, no part of government should be interfering in medical decisions, even if they’re very rare. Ever. The Republicans in our state started with that and trans women in sports, and ended with proposing constitutional amendments banning gay marriage. They’ve already banned trans health care for minors and started banning books in schools. And they’ve proposed banning all gender affirming care in the state and ran out of time.

Rational self interest is what made me vote for Hillary and Biden the first time. I’m in a deep red state, my state’s electoral college votes are going to Trump without a doubt. I’ll be voting Democrat down ticket, because in my state the national elections won’t matter. It’s the state banning gender affirming care, banning abortions, privatizing schools, etc. And Democrats can’t stop it at the state level (Republicans have supermajorities in both legislatures and will hold the governorship for at least 2 more years), and at the national level they don’t seem to try to care to try to stop it either. If I had resources, I would have already left the country. Many of my friends have.

So my vote isn’t going to count either way, it might as well try to serve as a wake up call to the Democrats that they have to be more than “not really fascist” to win an election.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And people wonder why so many gender non-conforming folks are refusing to vote for Biden.

I don't wonder that, because we're not refusing to vote for Biden. Except for the suicidal trans doomers who are willing to throw their lives away making a political statement. Which is absolutely tragic, but also fuck them for risking all our lives too.

[–] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

It'll be fun revisiting this if Biden somehow wins and project 2025 policies still get implemented. Then it'll be on to the next issue we totally have to vote blue to stop