Hooooooly fuck this gets 27 upvotes? There it is folks. Leftists are doing more damage by refusing to vote than the people who stormed the capitol. This hot take brought to you by lemmy.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The Republican party wouldn't exist if everybody voted. That is a straight up fact. As fucked as our election system is, they are far enough the minority that if everyone got out, the EC wouldn't matter.

You want a "left light" and a "true left", you aren't going to get it by abstaining, or by voting for nonviable moonshot third-party candidates. You are going to get it by abolishing the far right party and making that tiny sliver of the whole population realize that their antiquated views aren't welcome here.

They need to be crushed.

They only exist because people don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, so instead they just don't vote. And what do you know, a -1 for the less evil is just as effective as a +1 for the more evil.

All of their success is brought on by feeding apathy in their opposition, making it more difficult to vote, destroying any faith in the system, and gerrymandering.

So yes, in my opinion, the far left refusing to hold their nose for a few minutes may as well be voting for the insurrectionist.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So this happened under Obama. People voted blue no matter who, gave Dems a super majority and they used it to pass a GOP-crafted bill that forced people to pay for useless private insurance.

The party itself needs to change and the types of candidates that the establishment supports needs to change. That doesn't happen when they can do their pied piper thing and keep winning. And no "just one last hit" won't let them overcome the addiction to corporate conservativism.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They need to be crushed.

Then the way to do that is find a candidate in the primaries who appeals to everyone you need to make that happen. It was never a secret Biden was not that person.

It's a free country though. Feel free to go with whatever pitiful strategy you want. But you won't get the pro-corporate genocide supporting brain dead geriatric with my help. Let me know when you're ready to negotiate.

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if the Republicans get power this time around with a plan to remove all of our rights to hold even fair elections (project 2025) there won't be any negotiating. I'm a white cis male and it seems like you are too. We'll be fine either way. It's minorities and vulnerable classes that will get hit the most, like always. Women lost rights this last time around, it worries me how much more worse it will get.

Do I want Joe? Hell no, but I'll vote D for the rest of my days and walk through glass to do it. Once there's no more Rs then we can argue between Joe Biden and AOC. Still ain't perfect but a lot better than what we have.

It's a free country for now, feel free to sit this one out.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

And if the Republicans get power this time around with a plan to remove all of our rights to hold even fair elections (project 2025) there won’t be any negotiating.

Sounds like the 2020 primaries were pretty important.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

1000 people stormed the capitol. Allowing trump to win is far far far worse. Federal judge appointments alone are worth far more.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, Hillary and the DNC allowed Trump to win by ignoring their base and chasing imaginary "swing" voters. And now they're doing it again.

[–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

33 after I just upvoted. Vote for the Joe.