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[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The longer this war lasts, more Ukrainians will die and more territory Ukraine will lose. A ceasefire is in Ukraine's interest.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's a theoretical argument anyways. Right now the Russians have zero interest in a ceasefire as they are consolidating their territorial gains in the east.

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends. Russia is very close to reaching their publicly stated objective of liberating the Donbass.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Which is the same as I wrote? It will take them most likely a few more weeks to consolidate and then there might be an window of opportunity for a ceasefire, but who knows. But definitely not right now.

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

If Russia gets what they publicly stated, then they might be more willing to reach a ceasefire.

To end this conflict, there has to be a "honourable exit" for both parties involved.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

The sooner Ukraine starts to negotiate in earnest the better off they will be. It's really that simple.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

should Taiwan accept China as its owner as well?

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Doesn't Taiwan claim ownership over the Chinese mainland as well? They see themselves as the legitimate China.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

As long as Taiwan claims ownership of the mainland, the pro-Taiwan-independence movement is fighting both mainland China and the Taiwanese government. It's a real dumb move on Taiwan's part.

[–] nxlemmy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don't threaten to invade or attack other people for even saying the name of mainland china.

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I mean Taiwan can try to invade the mainland, but I don't see that as a very promising enterprise. The difference in power is huge.

But the official Taiwanese position is that they are China, not the mainland.