this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2024
236 points (98.0% liked)
Europe
8484 readers
1 users here now
News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe πͺπΊ
(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, π©πͺ ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures
Rules
(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)
- Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
- No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
- No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.
Also check out !yurop@lemm.ee
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible. This time they are voting for Nazis. Horseshoe theory proved correct yet again?
The horseshoe theory is still bullshit, as is assuming GDR was a "far left" opposite to far right AfD nowadays.
Communism isn't far left? TIL
Authoritarian communism has more to do with authoritarian fascism than it does with mainstream leftist ideologies.
How do the workers own the means of production if the state controls everything? Especially a state that only allows certain kind of person into the controlling party. An upper class, you might say.
Even if they own it, and the state demands a 90% tax on production, what do they really own?
You see, the state simply claims to be the workers - or rather their chosen representative.
Therefore, since the state owns everything, the workers must own everything. The GDR was so far left, they even ensured workers wouldn't accidentally self-harm their means of production through strikes, how kind of them.
Under a capitalist society, workers gain influence by joining a strike, union, or worker co-op. A state is a corporation that owns the means of violence. Under a capitalistic society this is used to protect the capital class. Under a more socialistic society a state becomes less important.
Again. They were also one of the first ones where the NSDAP got their chunk of votes.
Imo, it moreso proves that poverty causes desperation, desperation causes people to be way more susceptible to political extremism.
I don't think this has anything to do with the GDR except for the fact that it left east Germany in poverty.
if you're driving through East German cities you know why they're voting populist right wing parties. there's no work, poverty and half of the houses are empty because a lot of the people already left.
That's half the explanation.
The economic and social decline makes people susceptible to populists.
But the other half is this:
They're not the only populists.
To vote for outright, obvious Neo-Nazis you also have to ok with Neo-Nazis.
totally agree with you on that.
Yeah, but that doesn't explain it all. GΓΆrlitz for example is the county with the highest number of votes for the AfD. But the county is doing really well, there's a big Siemens plant there.
Black is only marginally better. No reason for the west to feel superior.
https://lemmy.today/post/11881508
I think that the real issue here is that Walter Model did an effective job of halting Operation Market Garden.
That was pre-Yalta, and my guess is that if it had succeeded, the occupation lines probably would have been further east.