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[โ€“] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

With the USSR overthrown, virtually all mainstream media now is capitalist propaganda. And the capitalist class obviously would not want the working class to prefer a system where workers are in power.

[โ€“] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being familiar with Bulgarian corruption, I'm going to confidently state that their percentages aren't due to a rounding error.

I was in Hungary last year and the nostalgia for communism is high and a significant portion of the population still remembers all the bad parts - Orban has really destroyed the social safety nets there and it hurts to see.

[โ€“] angel@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

Hungary was also the best part of the Soviet Bloc to live in for the people.

So it's not just that modern Hungary is worse: communist Hungary is more miss-able than communist East Germany.

Nigel Swain's two books on the subject are good:

  • Collective Farms Which Work? (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1985)

  • Hungary: The Rise and Fall of Feasible Socialism (London: New Left Books, 1992)

He's writing from the perspective of a non-red English academic who's like.... "wait... this works?? how do we explain the anomaly?"

Hungary had full shelves, booming agriculture, available consumer goods.

[โ€“] Crampon@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They even had to build a wall to keep the capitalist working class outside of east Berlin.

That Pew data is outdated. They have new data from 2019. Why did you post outdated and bad data to strengthen you belief?

The latest research literally says conditions are better now for most people. Unless you hate homosexuals and women. Every metric indicate high standards of life and rights.

I hate capitalism as much as the next person. But posting like you did is how we got Trump. Just faking everything till it happens.

[โ€“] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Bad data" is when you use data more representative of people who have actually lived under socialism and experienced the massive decline in quality of life, social welfare, housing, etc after capitalist bastards took it over and privatized everything for their profit

[โ€“] Crampon@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Ye sure. No communist project has ever worked out because some people are by nature evil and hungry for power. Every communist regime has gone to shit because of it. Anyone hungry for power should be imprisoned because they are a danger to society. But most people rely on direction to function. It's a double edged blade.

Capitalism ruins everything in its path and communism eat it's children. Welcome to the suck.

[โ€“] Sagittarii@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'd also expect there's more and more people propagandized by capitalist media in post-Soviet states as time has passed since capitalist bastards took it over. People who have not lived under socialism or experienced the massively decreased quality of life from the privatization forced on those countries.

Though fortunately it seems like the Russian capitalists have not managed to succeed in this, with more and more people identifying with the USSR than the capitalist Russian Federation in recent years.

Hard to do that at the heart of the revolution I guess. Maybe Russian communist parties could use that to become more revolutionary, specially with Russians able to see the stark difference between Russia under capitalism and China thriving under socialism. Doubt that'll happen while Putin is in power though.