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[โ€“] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm sympathetic to this idea, but I feel like the cruelty has to be part of a means to an end, perhaps to discipline the labor that does make it through in order to benefit the employing class.

[โ€“] rimu@piefed.social 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're looking for meaning where there is none. Fascism does not want to make sense, it very intentionally rejects reason and logic. To fascists, force and power is the only real politics. Few people really grasp how deep the nihilism of it is.

The chaos is an end in itself.

There's a sort of twisted reason, though. Fascists need a manufactured enemy to whom they can attribute blame for society's ills -- in this case, the myth of a "border crisis." It's sadly effective too, and somewhere around 70% of right-wingers in the US believe it, many of whom are so ignorant they don't realize they're complicit in bolstering fascism.

[โ€“] drq@mastodon.ml 2 points 4 months ago

@rimu I don't think it's without reason though.

Don't forget that fascism is what capitalism degenerates into.

So, follow the money, seek the ones who profit. Fascists themselves are irrelevant, they are basically useful idiots. Look out for those who feed those idiots.

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[โ€“] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

Posturing to be working hard on a solution. One that drives well with far right voters who hate foreigners.

The alternative of working on the cause instead of the symptom would put pressure on wealthy business owners and look like overreach to those voters.

[โ€“] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

It's simply part of an effort to impose moral beliefs on a world that to them, appears to work without them. Bringing order to chaos. Kind of like the Christian beliefs underpinning such cruelty.