Curious about your age and social group. Pretty much everyone I associate with doesn't want to have kids, usually citing the world their children would inherit. These definitely aren't the type of people that support eugenics, in any way. Are you of the belief that we should be increasing the world's population? If so, why?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah I have no idea why this person is on about. Antinatalism has literally nothing to do with eugenics. It's all about saying "fuck you I'm not going to make more cogs for the machine."

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago

I'll be honest it was a huge question that hung over my wife and I when we were trying to decide whether to have kids or not. But we were in our mid 30s and it was a 'now or never' type situation.

Believe it not there is positives in raising kids. We're definitely not judgemental of people who decide they don't want to. But I love my kids more than I knew it was possible. And we're trying to raise them with an understanding of the world that's a bit broader than the ra-ra pro-capital values we were taught as kids.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no, i have no belief regarding the world’s population in either direction. this comment pretty much explains the rest of my position.

[–] Syd@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Huh, it won't load. Does that mean I'm banned?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no it just means lemmy sucks probably 🙃

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Positive" eugenics is also eugenics, i.e. nations that want more (insert racial or ethnic group) and encouraging those groups to reproduce are engaging in eugenics.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i don’t disagree but positive eugenics is literally not the topic at hand that’s why no one had brought it up

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The OP isn't about eugenics of any sort. No one was talking about (negative) eugenics either until someone shoehorned it into the conversation.

I think it is intellectually dishonest to mention one type of eugenics while completely ignoring the other type, hence my bringing attention to a topic which has already been broached.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

intellectually dishonest

ok well what do you want me to say about it lol, the conversation was kind of already had before you showed up here

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You need to go learn about Demographic Transition. The world’s population is naturally going to cap itself this century.

[–] Syd@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

People choose to have less kids since there's less of a need to invest in human capital. It's a conscious choice, what's your point?