this post was submitted on 31 Mar 2024
380 points (100.0% liked)

196

16196 readers
2822 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Source

And for anyone who wants to check: US release of "The Matrix" was March 31st 1999

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

How’s that an allegory? Taking the red pill is waking to trans reality or something?

Edit: thanks everyone for your responses, it was eye opening. Time for a rewatch.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lilly Watchowski has stated that a trans allegory was the "original intention", but "the corporate world wasn't ready for it". She says that there was a character, Switch, who was supposed to be male in the real world and female in the Matrix. Who knows what else got cut?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who knows what else got cut?

Thermodynamics. The original idea was the machines using human brains as CPUs, execs said "the audience doesn't know what computation is" so they came up with that "humans generate energy" thing which is complete and utter inefficient nonsense.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If people didn't understand the computing thing they could have just said it was designed to keep the human population under control and not rebelling against their machine overlords.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes but why keep humans around then, why not just kill them all off? Could be some "Robot Law" injunction, "don't harm humans", but I'd say introducing that would introduce complexity into the setting that detracts from the main themes.

"We're using humans for their computational power" doesn't need much history or exposition as it's a completely practical matter: Suspension of disbelief for minimum investment, a script writer's dream.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Just compare it to adult children putting their elderly parents in a nursing home. Also, based on the Animatrix it seems like it has a lot more to do with keeping humans from fighting back and destroying the earth even more than it does with using them for computing power, since the machines didn't need human brains prior to building The Matrix.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The leading brand of estrogen in the 90s was red.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

OH. Hah, I always thought this was one detail they got wrong for some reason, considering estradiol is bluegreen. Should have considered the context back then.

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago

There's a lot. Like the way Agent Smith (representing the system) constantly disrespects Neo's identity and deadnames him.

[–] match@pawb.social 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was typing up a thesis, but this really sums it up, doesn't it lmao

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Taking the red pill (estrogen at the time was a red pill) enables you to see that a lot of society is a facade and there are depths beyond it. In the real world that could be things like learning that there are people and lives that society refused to acknowledge like trans people

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Switch was meant to be trans (hence the name I think) and their in matrix visual identity was different to "reality". But corpos didn't like it.

[–] Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I've always wondered the same. I've watched the trilogy multiple times looking for the trans parallels, but I don't really get it.