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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

I need y'all to understand: Biden isnt losing votes from the far left. He never had those votes, and could never get them.

He's losing the votes of Muslims and Arabs in Michigan and Philly. He's losing the votes of moderates who are watching Israel's final solution in horror. He's losing the votes of Latinos and Haitians who see the southern border is getting more militarized and more violent every year

[Edit] to be 100% clear: If you oppose Israel's war on Palestine, but plan on voting for Biden this November,this post isn't about you.

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[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Are they being beaten, locked up, or killed currently? Because that's what a Trump Presidency would mean.

Things can always get worse.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they are currently being beaten and killed. Not locked up due to their identity, but it would be actually mind boggling if Trump getting elected was the single thing needed for that to happen.

Yes it could get worse, but everyone gets into a frenzy over a single election every four years and acts like that's the deciding factor for how it will be for the next four years. Everyone should be working together to fix the systemic issues that allows trump to radicalize the right. Focusing on the the cause of the infection, like ranked choice voting, removing the electoral college, better education. Spread those ideas in your community, demand your local representatives push for it in the government, and fight the divisive attitudes.

That's my issue with the Democrats talking points, it's divisive and encourages radicalizing people as much as the Republicans. Because in a two party system, both parties benefit from radicalizing their group against each other. And I am absolutely not saying we tolerate intolerance from the right, but I'm saying there are better ways to fight it than voting for Biden who benefits from the "vote for me or else the bad guys win". There's no accountability, like when he supports a country that's killing thousands of innocent people.

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's all great, but those changes take years, decades, generations. The election is in 7 months. There's not enough time to enact these changes and we won't get a chance to make them if we have another Trump Presidency.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those changes would happen faster if the decaying old fascist you're begging people to vote for actually did anything instead of gaslighting muslims into backing his islamophobic party.

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago

Haha how is he fascist? If anything, he's neoliberal.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Every fucking day you actual dimwit. This is why having to deal with "im gonna vooooot!" nerds is so insanity-inducing: because trans people are being killed and driven out of their states while Biden licks his fucking ice cream and refuses to even legislate to end the repression in blue states .

He's literally signing off on more weapons for Israel as you type this asinine shit. He never did a THING to stop the killing at the Mexican border or the endless killing by your cops and your fascists. He forced the railworkers not to strike whilst your rail infrastructure poisoned millions.

He's hoping they make useful idiots like you just pissed off enough to vote for him again, but he's no different to Trump because he just left every horrible thing Trump did fester and build up whilst he and Kamala laughed all the way to the bank.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So instead of letting him win, we should let Trump get a second term, so instead of being left to fester everything Trump did can be reinforced. Got it.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 months ago

Hey the president doesn’t control the laws of individual states, and barely has any power to legislate. Congress legislates

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

Yes, they are? Pay fucking attention.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Yes, yes they are. I'm not saying a Trump presidency would be better, but you seriously need to look outside your personal bubble.