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Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When you receive a takedown / DMCA / whatever legal mumbo-jumbo applies to your jurisdiction, you have two choices:

Comply immediately
Fight it in court

You actually have a third option: file a DMCA Counternotice. If my reading is correct, the very act of filing the counternotice allows you to keep the content up unless the original filer "insists" (it's the mechanism against "DMCA trolling"). DMCAis not a jail-free card to erase content from the internet.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Possibly, but the DMCA is strictly a US thing. The comply or fight in court are the only two somewhat universal options.

Other countries have other similar laws, though. LW's TOS says they're under legal jurisdiction of Finland, The Netherlands, and Germany. Not sure what their laws are like, but Germany seems pretty strict about it.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Could be, but still it reeks of overreaction. Without the need of seeing anything else, it's almost impossible that Germany's law is that strict that "linking to (discussion of) pirated material" would be off, since if that was the case Google would be making Germany rich with their fines, which doesn't seem to be the case. It's even worse when it comes down to saying "discussing or mentioning" internet piracy would be illegal - under the way copyright holders themselves understand it, this would mean mentioning the market of secondhand sales would be illegal in such jurisdictions.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, until LW addresses it, all we can really do is guess. I've just jumped to the most logical conclusion, but that doesn't mean it's even close.

For what it's worth, as an instance admin myself: I don't get paid to run it, I have other things to worry about, and most definitely don't have time or energy to deal with copyright BS. That said, I can completely understand their position and reaction.

Depending on how my day was going, I'd have also probably "shot first and asked questions later" with regard to removing the community and waiting until I had time to compose a post about it and be present to deal with the inevitable drama that would cause.

Hopefully they make an announcement soon.