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FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

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[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You act like I've never heard any of these arguments before 🙄 when this lesser of two evils, game theory argument is the Democrats' party line to avoid accountability. Keep voting for us!! We won't change at all, in fact, we'll get more conservative, but keep it up! Thanks for the votes!

Why would Biden be conviced to stop funding genocide after we elect him? After he has definitively learned that genocide is not a bridge too far for people to vote Democrat? It's illogical. You're just like oh hopes and prayers Biden will change his mind 🙏 YOU'RE the one being illogical.

Threatening re-election is the only power we have to convince high level Democrats to change. I'm suggesting something that has actual power.

We don't have to limit our political strategy to a single election cycle. If Trump wins, it's the Democrats fault for not adhering to basic moral values. When Democrats realize they will actually lose elections, they will put up different candidates in the next elections and they will support better policies.

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Okay cool. You show the Democrats they will lose unless they put up better more Leftist candidates by handing Trump the victory. What now? At the pace we're going, Gaza won't be around in 2028. All of the Palestinians will be dead.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, at the pace we are going under Biden. Under Biden.

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

So the Genocide doesn't actually matter to you. Got it. You just wanna use it as an excuse to stay home. Kinda cringe bro.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

To get out of the weird negativity you brought into the discussion -

Biden and Trump are much closer to each other politically than the Democrats would have us believe. Voting for third party could make the Democrats run more left-leaning candidates. If we keep voting for Democrats no matter what they do, they have no motivation to change! Why would Biden suddenly stop FUNDING Israel after we vote him in again? What is the motivation? But if Democrats lose or nearly lose the election due to losing votes, that's amazing motivation to change.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You're being intentionally obtuse right now lol this isn't the own you think it is. You just seem a bit slow.