this post was submitted on 27 Mar 2024
1480 points (100.0% liked)

196

16423 readers
1698 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
1480
rule (lemmy.cafe)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] LongMember69@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (16 children)

The reality of the shitty political system of the US means that it comes down to two bad choices.

However one of the bad choices would see the genocide of the Palestinian people accelerated. Not only that, but Trump has tried to oppose aid to Ukraine, which would allow for genocide of the Ukrainian people to occur unabated.

So if your actions to oppose one genocide results in the continuation of that genocide plus one more, is what you did objectively right every time?

[–] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

Yes, it is still objectively right. Anyone deciding not to vote for Biden isn't automatically culpable for any Trump victory unless they voted for him personally.

Again, Biden has had plenty of time to prove that he's against genocide. To take any sort of major action to try and stop this genocide from continuing the way that it has. Or at the very least taking away all US military funding from Israel. He has done none of that while approving additional military funding for Israel.

This is of course before bringing up the electoral college and how the majority of states don't even get a say in the presidential election outside of their states predetermined answer.

I will not vote for anyone funding genocide. Again, if Trump wins that's entirely on Biden and the Democrats for failing to do anything. The signs have been here for months if not years in terms of voter disatisfaction: and they continue to do fuck all.

[–] LongMember69@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Yes, it is still objectively right. Anyone deciding not to vote for Biden isn't automatically culpable for any Trump victory unless they voted for him personally.

This is an incredibly naïve and privileged perspective, clearly held by someone who has nothing to lose if Trump were to win.

[–] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 6 points 7 months ago

I'm actively watching the rights of my loved one literally be stripped away while Biden does fuck all. You can call me whatever you want, but the point remains that Biden has done fuck all and is actively promoting genocide.

You don't know the first thing about me; so don't condescend to me while ignoring everything else I've said.

load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (13 replies)