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[–] clover@slrpnk.net 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a good place for free public housing.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Yes! I'd suggest some mixed zoning sprinkled on top, so you don't need a car to access bare minimum amenities.

And architects who have in-depth knowledge and experience on how to design public spaces, experienced lighting engineers, and appropriate funding to make sure it doesn't follow the same failures that previous projects have encountered

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Conversion of commercial property for residential use is ruinous and suboptimal.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not if they tear it down and rebuild it appropriately

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Most malls are in very inconvenient locations if you don't have a car, tho. Unless you plan on providing every conceivable service right there and/or add reliable public transport links, it's probably not the way to go.

You'd basically be building a bunch of apartment blocks near a highway interchange.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not malls but like 90% of office buildings are sitting empty downtown. Seems like a pretty convenient area to build affordable housing to me, especially considering downtown businesses are also suffering.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Catch 22. You can’t remodel a mall into houses because you need a mall for everyone to go to.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you heard of our lord and savior Mixed Zoning?

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More like Lord and Saviour scrap all those insane laws and just let things happen until insurance won't cover it. 15-minute cities are the technocratic response to make a bureaucratic solution that emulates organic city development. It isn't the first time a technocratic solution promises to solve all our problems, the European integrated neighbourhoods made of brutalist concrete are now mostly dilapidated ghettos and have been shit for a long time.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeaaah sure, just let everyone build whereever they want...

just let things happen until insurance won’t cover it.

I'm sure this is in no way lopsided to corporations that can afford to forego coverage for furthering their goal.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 points 3 months ago

Well in a corrupt regime where they're not held accountable it is a problem yes, corporations funding it is a small clue why that happens all the time.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you could keep some of the mall stuff and have at least a supermarket there, but people would still need stuff that a mall typically won't offer, and people need to get to their jobs as well, unless they all happen to work at that mall.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 points 3 months ago

I should have written “buildings”.