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The European Union announced a โ‚ฌ7.4 funding package and an upgraded relationship with Egypt on Sunday, part of a push to stem migrant flows to Europe criticised by rights groups.

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[โ€“] tryptaminev@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile the German economy needs a migration of an extra 400.000 working age people to maintain its workforce and not have the economy shrink because of lacking workers. The effect is even more severe for the health insurance and pension insurance as their costs grow while income shrinks from people retiring.

EDIT: The 400.000 extra immigrants need to be there every year. So 4.000.000 people over the next decade.

[โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Germany can probably drag in people from poorer EU members. That'd probably be more popular in Germany than immigration from outside the EU, but doing that transfers German demographic problems to those states when they already have their own demographic problems. If it's a big problem for Germany, it's gonna be an even bigger problem for Bulgaria to deal with on top of existing Bulgarian problems.

With EU total fertility rates as low as they are, the EU is very probably gonna have to accept a considerable chunk of immigration from outside the EU if it intends to maintain its position. Can choose the source to some degree, but it's gotta happen one way or another.

[โ€“] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago

Germany can probably drag in people from poorer EU members.

Nope. At least not enough. Foreign workers rather go to other countries than Germany.

That'd probably be more popular in Germany than immigration from outside the EU,

Also no. Those who agitate against migration do so against all migration, even refugees from Ukraine. Nazis do Nazi things.

[โ€“] ichmagrum@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Part of the issue is that Germany needs a lot of skilled workers, and the qualifications of immigrants from poorer countries are often not accepted. Of course, Germany has a hard time attracting skilled workers because the wages aren't that good and the immigration-related bureaucracy is a huge pain in the ass.