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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago (8 children)

The article: "a bunch of us are worried about the potential rise of fascism in the United States, so we're moving to Italy"

Tell me that you are oblivious to international politics without literally telling me that you are oblivious to international politics.

More to the point, if Americans were the type to "flee in droves," left-wingers would have left states like Texas and Florida en-masse for bluer pastures. Moving within the United States is a million times easier than moving overseas, and if they're not doing the former in the face of fascism/degradation of human rights in red states, why on earth would they engage in the much more difficult latter? Definitely sounds like a case of taking anecdote and non-committal musings online too seriously.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Many people are doing that. And republicans are migrating in the opposite direction, too.

The problem is most people can’t just up and leave.its expensive, we have to line up jobs, housing, etc; and many people don’t want to leave family and friends.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I dunno, something feels different this time. One of my co workers just asked for advice on what country to move to if Trump is re elected.

The reason I think it’s different this time is because this is the same co worker that used to make fun of me for thinking that Trump’s second term will usher in America’s first dictatorship. It ain’t funny now.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Glad somebody is waking up and paying attention.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Stay in the US. Honestly. The threat isn't the rising tide of hateful rhetoric from right-wing extremists. The threat is that a bunch of christo-fascist doomsday worshippers get sole access to 50% of the nuclear weapons on the planet.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I'm in Texas. I know less than a dozen Republicans and maybe 3 of them are Trumpsters. I voted in the Republican primary and, while researching candidates and propositions, i was shocked at how horrible they all are!!! I was trying to choose the least crazy candidates and they're weren't any!

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Depends on how they're moving to Italy. They have generous repatriation laws if you are descended from an Italian who emigrated. So by following that repatriation process to reclaim Italian citizenship opens up the whole EU.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I agree with you. This is a non story

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Moving to a different state within the US would do fuck-all to mitigate the kind of threats we're worried about.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

As someone who spent 20 years living in foreign countries, there is a political distance when you're somewhere else. US politics are happening on a different part of the globe, and it takes a long time to really understand local politics. I'm leaving soon, but that's happening whatever the outcome of the election as it was already planned.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the republicans i know think that people are fleeing blue states to red states because of politics. the reality is that nobody is going anywhere.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The overwhelming majority of people die within like 20 miles of their birthplace.