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[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I feel like in 2024 jazz is full of people who are Very Concerned with playing jazz according to the rules and boundaries. The amount of condescending jazz musicians I have met almost approaches the amount of condescending classically trained musicians I have met at this point which is unfortunately saying something.

Obviously a big generalization of diverse and varied artistic movement, but I don’t think jazz even remotely plays the subversive, counter cultural role it used to, it has been far to institutionalized as a genre.

The counter cultural, rule breaking aspects of jazz have mostly moved on to other black american movements of music like hip-hop, rap, and electronic genres etc. Shout out to black american culture for being the driving force behind almost every meaningful musical movement in the US :)

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tbf there have always been jazz nerds and then the actual musicians.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

If the text on the pic was Live Jazz a Jazz Nerd would say "That apostrophe is a mistake" and everyone else would acknowledge it but not be nearly as upset about it.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

I'm afraid I disagree, Lakesia Benjamin is melding hip-hop, soul, modern music and jazz

The Darcy James Argue Secret Society is creating listenable music but still pushing boundaries

and for the more avant guard stuff we had both Space Cube Jazz and Chicken Shit Bingo this year.