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[–] dugmeup@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And get stuck with Trump cause ... that is a better outcome for Arab Americans?

These guys need to learn to fight the battle in front of them. Not the battle they wish they had. They don't have a pro-and-anti Gaza war Presidental option.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

No, no, you see, MORE minorities suffering is actual Left Praxis

Or fucking something. I can't keep up with the awful takes, honestly. They change all the time.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's absurd. Biden's position is shit, but at least he's slightly critical of Netenyahu. Trump is quite clearly worse than Biden.

I mean, Trump's position on West Bank settlements is that they're perfectly legal. That what amounts ethnic cleansing in the West Bank is perfectly legal. Biden reversed that, restoring the longstanding policy that it is in fact illegal for Israeli settlers to (violently) chase Palestinians off their land.

I honestly wonder if these people actually give a shit about the Palestinians, or want them to become martyrs for the cause because it's more politically expedient. If deep down they wouldn't rather the Israelis kill as many Palestinians as possible, because they think it'll help them 'win the argument'.

Disgusting.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter if he critisize Israel or not and declare illegal sentelment illegal when there is zero repercusion on Israel. The US is keeping helping Israel with arms and money. So there is zero difference between Biden and Trump when it comes to helping Palestine

[–] wahming@monyet.cc -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So you'd prefer wholehearted support for Israel instead?

[–] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden is just hypocrite. Doing nothing concrete to stop Israel crimes is a wholehearted support to it.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hoo boy. I'd wish you the best of luck with trump, except the rest of us will have to suffer his bullshit as well.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you read what I said? Both Trump and Biden are equally terrible when it comes to Palestine

[–] dugmeup@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not even remotely close. If you think Trump would not start a religious war to stay in power - that is kill the Muslims, then you have no idea how power hungry narcissists work.

Except history has time and again given us every example of how they work and think.

They get power by pandering to their base (the Christian right) and killing the supposed enemy of that group - in this case a whole of Muslims and Jews and anyone else.

So yeah you think this is genocide? Oh boy if the president of the US was for genocide the world would be a slaughterhouse.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wholehearted meaning exactly what? What could Trump have done to handle the situation worse?

[–] dugmeup@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everything! Offer to nuke "the Muslims". Start a larger war with the A-rabs

Then pander to his base and start a real religious war in the middle east so he can be a war time president for the Christian right.

Destroy the NATO coalition.

Enable Russian expansion in all unstable areas.

Fuck everyone and everything. Literally and figuratively.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He could pander to his base with all of this, but he can't really do any of it (except the NATO and Russia parts but those have nothing to do with Palestine). That's what I was talking about; Trump would be spouting genocidal rhetoric but there's very little he can actually do that Biden hasn't already.

[–] dugmeup@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You think the President of the United States cannot start a war?

With a rabid Congress and Supreme Court to back him up? The speaker is right wing Christian supremecist. This would sell so fast that it'll make your head spin.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Doesn't the Senate need to allow it first?