Yeah, there’s alot of people feeling anxiety about it and we can see the world around us sliding, but the people who are ultimately responsible for trashing the environment are the ones who are feeling apathetic. They’ve gotten their wealth at the expense of the planet, and when things get shittier, they’ll hole themselves up in their silos and bunkers, each carrying on with their own Masque of the Red Death, but they’ll succumb in the end.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wouldn't say they're pathetic, I think it's more that they don't dare angering the shareholders/owner class.

Shareholders/Owners to C- suits: "What, you're worried about a few more devastating storms and food shortages? That's for the poors to worry about! We pay you enough not to care, now back to work making us trillionaires!"

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's very very true. People are just focused on their day to day. I'm not attacking the individual, I'm just acknowledging that people have bills to pay, kids to raise, personal goals.

Climate change is a societal level issue, so individuals have opinions, and a few options to pitch in, but generally no ability outside of voting to affect mass change.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's always armed revolution, but nobody's going to do that if they won't even stop voting for climate genocide.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I really do think that at this point, armed revolution is the only thing that will make any meaningful change. We already see that politicians don't give a fuck about us, corporations and billionaires won't do anything that will affect their bottom line, and no matter who we vote for, they get bought out. Sure one party is a little less evil than the other here in the states, but we're coming to a point where the entire system is straight gridlocked because "we've tried everything and we're all out of ideas!".

Although, should it come to armed revolution, half the idiots with guns will start shooting at their fellow countryman while muttering about [insert hot button culture war topic here] instead of going after the group that is responsible for all this shit. So I dunno.

I'm going to keep voting against fascists and authoritarians, but I ain't holding my breath that it'll all get better soon.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

me and 20 guys go out and arm up, put on boots and fatigues, fill a backpack with rations and ammo
???
climate crisis solved

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Try 20000 and you'll maybe make a dent.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Against the US military's resources? Lol. The second shit hits the fan, the military will begin domestic operations to "keep order," and anyone within their ranks who becomes a consciousness objector will be executed on sight.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You forget that the military is made up of the common person and a lot of people who see and feel first hand exactly what the government fucking them up the ass is like.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

no revolution in history had just 20 armed dudes who tought they could individually change the world

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website -2 points 8 months ago

And climate change is only one of the several issues that is highly likely to end human's brief stint on this planet Earth.

Just off the top of my head, another is the impending WWIII beginning with Russian aggression, which after the Civil War pt. II the USA looks extremely likely to not only cease funding Ukraine but I shit you not may literally join hands with Russia to fight WITH them (people in some areas - and not just a handful - are flying 3 flags: USA, Confederate, and either Hungarian or direct Russian, some reputedly at literal police stations / firefighters). And too there's China, and blah blah so TLDR here: "war".

Which starts us off with a good phrasing, very biblical 4 horseman-esque, b/c there's also the next upcoming plagues, which if people are concentrating themselves into fewer, already-built-up areas, is going to expand further. Especially if they are so unedumacashiated (sp) as to willingly volunteer to forego vaccination, for the sake of preserving additional resources for the wealthy.

And famine too, don't forget the famine. The forces of Automation and Globalization are complex, intricate, and have benefits but also detractions especially within the most wealthy countries where e.g. uneducated workers having their jobs sent overseas may cause them to more readily vote for Trump. Who then spreads vaccine disinformation and advocates for literal war, either on the side of expansionist Russia, or against expansionist China, or somehow even more likely both at the same time, or perhaps he'll pick on some smaller country merely b/c it's a Tuesday (hey, remember when he assassinated another country's military leader? Pepperidge Farms remembers!).

And, full disclosure, having to pay more at the grocery store isn't "famine", but REAL famine is happening as well, and as more visible local needs increase, the more remote forms of charitable aid is expected to decrease?

So we've got pestilence, war, disease, and famine - I'm just going to call it now: BINGO! :-P