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I'm done, I've been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I've been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I've ever had on any lemmy instance), I've had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I've had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hold up... If this is your one and only Lemmy account, and it's banned... How are you making this post?

According to the modlogs: the only action ever taken against you by a mod or admin was having a single post removed. I don't agree with the reason that it broke rule 1 though... I don't agree with what you said because it's misinformed, but what you said was not racist.

So you're lying either about not having other accounts and evading a ban, or about how you've been banned or how often you've had content removed.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Modlog is weird. There is a possibility he's been banned from an instance and that's what he meant.

When I was banned from StarTrek.Website I had no idea. It didn't show in Lemmy.world logs, only ST.W ones

Edit: Yep. He was banned from lemmy.ml. Funny enough, that should actually improve his lemmy experience.

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Banned from Lemmygrad Lite? What a terrible loss!

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I couldn't agree more (Also, for formality: I dislike you)

Anyway, this wrong loser is right: If you're not going to vibe with the place, it's not a big deal if you're not welcomed. The beauty of the fediverse is that the admin of blahaj, who is quite open about their zero tolerance of nontolerance policy, does not have the capability to ban you from lemmy.

Like, if you were dating a chick who you weren't compatible with, why the hell would you want to stick around? Accept the incompatibility and move on.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a leftist I absolutely concur with your assessment. The only time I go to .ML is on accident. And I'm usually down voted. Though I do get a good chuckle on the off instance I'm not.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Same experience here. Leftist who has studied political science and economics. I have very gently corrected some of the century-old, outdated leftist dogma on .ml and get nothing but bans for it.

They have pretty much been completely hijacked by right wing trolls, and it's frankly incredible that the few remaining actual leftists can't see it.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a pretty objective open minded comment to me, I wonder what they replied to.

I looked up rule 1 if lemmy.ml: No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

The code of conduct is that of Lemmy org, I never read it till now and I'm very disappointed by the next part: "Remarks that moderators find inappropriate, whether listed in the code of conduct or not, are also not allowed.". Basically total mod discretion, so by extension, "rule 1" of lemmy.ml also boils down to total mod discretion.

According to the code of conduct, there's also supposed to be first warnings, temporary bans and the chance for repeals according to the code of conduct. Which does sound nice, but I wonder if it's also done in practice in some Lemmy communities. It seems pretty hard to provide a system for this that is not based on happenstance. Does anyone have experience with this?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world has defederated from Lemmy.ml but even before I moved over here, I had been avoiding them on my old instance. Why? They were removing posts with no notification and had banned me with no notification or warning. What was the post? A Jimmy Neutron meme. "This is my first gay character!" "Disney, this is your 14th first gay character". My title said something like "It's always the first in China when they're removed before airing". What was the reason? Rule 1 of the site as a whole. I talked with another very heavy poster and he had stuff removed as well with no warning. Also had a dicey conversation with an admin. Just gave up and started avoiding it. I don't think I ever got permanently banned from there (although I did from Hexbear for 'perjery') but if I did I wouldn't have cared much.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are still federated. You might have it confused with the defederation from hexbear and lemmygrad (both autocratic loving tankies, who are also extremely obnoxious).

I wasn't sure before and I wanted to look it up, that's why I didn't reply earlier.

https://lemmy.world/instances The blocked instances are at the bottom.