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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

they don't know to make a good android app, abd you want them to make an entire cellphone💀💀

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They made an entire Linux-powered portable game system that's revolutionizing Linux gaming at the moment...an embedded engineer is not the same skillset as an app developer. Not even close.

[+] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works -6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They made a device with a proprietary operating system and proprietary software. If you really want that, why not just use Android?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since when is Arch proprietary?

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Steam OS is proprietary.

But Arch contains proprietary firmware, so technically it's not fully free software either.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

SteamOS is open source with some closed sources component. But most important think you seems not being able to understand is that Valve provide high support to Open source community, which means it wouldn't be surprising if they decided to drop a open source phone.

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

SteamOS is open source with some closed sources component.

So it is not free software. It's proprietary, unethical software that takes away your freedom. Just like Windows, Android, etc.

But most important think you seems not being able to understand is that Valve provide high support to Open source community, which means it wouldn’t be surprising if they decided to drop a open source phone.

By doing what? They only want to lock you in their proprietary platform. Most of heir software is proprietary, their games are proprietary and they restrict users with DRM. It's a terrible company, which abuses their users. If Steam Deck contains proprietary software, why would their phone by anything different?

[–] Titou@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haven't you heard of proton ?

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Valve didn't invent that. It's a slightly modified fork of Wine - software that people have been developing and using for 30 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

[–] Titou@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Valve didn't invent that. It's a slightly modified fork of Wine - software that people have been developing and using for 30 years.

And ? How is it supposed to comes into contradiction with the fact it's open source ? There's many things based on something, it's not new

[–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Valve mainly makes proprietary software. Proton doesn't do anything new. It just contains some fixes for Steam games. Nobody cares about it other than Steam users. You are acting like they invented something here. They didn't. They just want to lock you in their platform.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It just contains some fixes for Steam games.

I don't think you realise how this "little change" drastically affect linux gaming.

Nobody cares about it other than Steam users.

No shit sherlock.

They just want to lock you in their platform.

If they wanted to lock us on their platform, they would add a vendor lock on the steam deck(nothing stop you to install any others linux distro on it, or even windows even if i don't recommend it), they would not explain how to use proton outside of steam(which for them is a catch, because it gives the possibility to linux users to play steam cracked games), i probably forgot many others things but you got my point.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They can do the hardware and let someone else compile the os

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idk SteamOS seems pretty ok to me

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good point, now I'm wondering why the steam mobile app sucks

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

they prob put 0 effort into it because they see almost 0 ROI