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[โ€“] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 99 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

Just wait until you look into French numbers.

How different languages say 97:

๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง: 90+7 (ok, there is some jank in English numbers - 13-19 are in line with the Germanic pronunciation, i.e. pronounced "right to left", as a weird hold-over from the more Germanic Old English)

๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ: 90+7

๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช: 7+90

๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท: 4x20+10+7

And if you think that's bad, the Danes actually make the French look sane...

๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ: 7+(-ยฝ+5)x20

Even Danes generally don't really know why their numbers are like that, they just remember and go along with it.

[โ€“] Frozzie@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know everytime your mention French number, there is always belgian or Swiss who will tell you :

๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ: 90+7

โ˜๏ธ๐Ÿค“

[โ€“] darkmogool@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

please... french swiss....

[โ€“] Moghul@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While learning Danish I figured out that's just the arcane incantation for the number. It's language juju, and you just have to know that it be like it do. Yes, it's syv og halvfems, but the reason behind it doesn't matter anymore. The rest of the double digit numbers are a mess as well; 30 is tredive (three tens in old norse) but starting with 50 it's this weird score (20) and half-to-score system.

When I first started learning my brain was desperately trying to make heads or tails of it and rationalize it somehow. And then I realized that was stupid, abandoned reason, and now I just utter these backwards ass numbers and we all nod and everyone is happy lol. Language is weird.

[โ€“] casmael@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/s-mOy8VUEBk?si=1dudvGSjUd9VI11D

๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿซก

Itโ€™s not easy running an isenkramstornunung when nobody remembers what anything is called

[โ€“] quilan@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

An absolute classic that I watch every single time. Kamelรฅsรฅ!

[โ€“] casmael@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I donโ€™t know what he gave me, but it was wrong ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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[โ€“] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

I can't stop giggling about the Danish way of saying that. Like, I don't even understand how that's 90? LMAO.

[โ€“] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not real. I refuse to believe that.

[โ€“] nilaus@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

It is, but we just say seven and half fives these days. Everybody knows the twenty are implied...

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think Finnish would be

๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ: 9โ€ข10+7

Nine-tens seven

[โ€“] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

Where do you think nine-ty in English comes from?

[โ€“] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Same for Japanese

๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต: 9โ€ข10+7

ไน(kyuu) ๅ(juu) ไธƒ(nana)

Also, similar to English, 20 does not follow the pattern but instead has its own word. (Still written as 2โ€ข10 though)

[โ€“] neutron@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile in CJK languages we just chill and say 9 x 10 + 7. Why doesn't everyone do that?

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I guess "ninety" likely stems from "nine tens", so I guess English isn't far off

[โ€“] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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