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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't pay that much attention to the latest gossip or trending scandals. And when I hear that there is a scandal, I refuse to jump on the bandwagon unless I take the time to get a clear understanding of the situation and the context, which takes time I may not have. Sometimes torches and pitchforks are clearly justified, sometimes they aren't or it's impossible to know.

If something is a big enough issue that I hear about it, and it turns out that the artist is a confirmed shit head, I'll avoid giving them money. But generally speaking, it only taints their work if it reveals things you didn’t see there before. Sometimes that thing which can't be unseen is significant enough to ruin the experience.

Then again, I also have no problem with consuming media that has objectionable elements to it, as long as I know about it going in. I've read Lovecraft knowing he was a racist and more, and yeah, it definitely shows (sources of terror: madness, the cold indifference of a harsh universe, immigrants, the working class, and race mixing). But while I'm not a huge fan and don't actively promote his work, I'm glad I read what I did, and would advise anyone interested in Lovecraft to go ahead and read it, as long as they know what they are getting into.

So, while I can separate art and artist, I don't know how often I really need to. I can think for myself, I don't need to have my content sanitized, and I certainly don't need to purge my library based on nothing more than an association with someone who did something bad at some point.

Gene Roddenberry was often a shitty person, but that doesn't change the positive impact that Star Trek has had on myself and others. We could throw the whole franchise out, but it would be a terrible loss if we did.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Shitty people can make good things. If the things they make aren't connected to what makes them shitty people, and they aren't using their position as a thing maker to spread shittyness, I don't see anything wrong with supporting them. If their things are disconnected from what makes them shitty people but they DO use their position as a creator to spread shittyness, I might still consume their creations but I won't support them. If their stuff IS connected to what makes them shitty people, I probably wouldn't want to consume it in the first place.

For example, if a bigot makes good instrumental electronic music and isn't using their somewhat wellknown face to preach bigotry, I have no problem buying their music and recommending it to others. If they were actively being shitty with the face of their music, I'd pirate it and not spread the word instead. If their music was bigoted, I wouldn't want to listen to it to begin with.