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You die and go to Heaven and Hitler is there. In fact, everyone who ever lived and died is there. Are you offended? (lemmy.world)
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  1. The Bible says Jesus died for our sins.
  2. Assuming that doesn't mean some of our sins and it means all of our sins.
  3. Therefore, Hitler goes to Heaven too.

Hitler Goes To Heaven Too

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Not offended. It's more fair than Hitler being in hell, frankly. Assuming a god that's remotely similar to anything humans have typically dreamed up, having an afterlife set up to give infinite torture is insane:

  • It's impossibly disproportionate (any "sin" is finite).
  • It's pointless for purposes of reform, it's just sheer bloody-minded vengeance.
  • It's not even useful as a threat to scare mortals into line since mortals presumably can't take any measurements of the afterlife. Just lie about Hell existing if that's what it's for.
  • It's being done to "punish" sins that these gods set us up for in the first place. They're responsible for creating us in a manner that's capable of sin and putting us in this universe that allows it.

So I'd be perfectly fine with finding Hitler in heaven. He's not able to hurt anyone any more, that's the important thing.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It really is a dumb idea. It kind of made sense for its original intention of creating a place of punishment for the old gods of conquered peoples (Tartarus) - eternal punishment for eternal beings and all that. But then when it gets syncretized into Judaism's monotheism around the time Christianity is getting on its feet the whole concept is just silly.

It's pretty wild that Enoch didn't end up canonized given the influence it had on early Christianity. That shit makes Revelations look tame.

[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

The Ethiopian and Eritrean churches (non-Chalcedonian, Oriental Orthodox) actually do hold 1 Enoch to be canonical scripture.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's not able to hurt anyone any more, that's the important thing.

Neville Chamberlain, is that you? This is how you get the Holycaust.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If he could hurt other people then they wouldn't be in Heaven. Seems like the problem has been resolved, he's completely disarmed now.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I do love a good pun