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Live audio of the US Supreme Court: oral arguments to decide if Trump is eligible to run for president
(www.supremecourt.gov)
this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2024
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For those who missed it (or didn't watch) the AP has a pretty concise page with what happened.
https://apnews.com/live/trump-supreme-court-arguments-updates
Good summary. Apparently even the Democratic judges are skeptical of upholding the Colorado Supreme Court decision.
When faced with murky or complex legal issues surrounding elections, I think the court pretty much always tries to come down on the side of letting voters decide. And I'm not sure that's a bad philosophy. This has been my expectation from day one, though I've tried to keep an optimistic view and challenge myself to look for reasons they might rule differently.
I'm not surprised in the least, but I'm glad we at least the challenge was made. I'm not sure if any country can withstand self-sabotage by a nearly 50% party. If we can't defeat Trump at the ballot it doesn't really matter whether we can keep him off on a legal issue because there are still all those folks he has won over. Authority in our nation comes from the people, and the people decide. I just wish so many of us weren't so fucking stupid and hateful.
“Let the voters decide” Just like in Bush v. Gore! Oh, wait…
And the 2nd Amendment!
The only hope America has is that Trump is convicted in one of his trials and receives jail time (hopefully a LOT of jail time). NAL but I'm pretty sure SCOTUS would back that scenario fully.
That would be wonderful. But it isn't the only hope. We can just defeat the fucker at the ballot box the old fashioned way. It isn't sexy and it doesn't stop conspiratorial thinking and it doesn't give the satisfaction of slapping him with consequences he has never faced in his life, but a mic drop is a mic drop. I would love to defeat him by an irrefutable margin. Might just be a pipe dream, though.
not 'fully'. not this scotus.
They would probably stay his sentence pending presidency, at which point he would self pardon and go full dictator, dooming the country
The only hope for this country is either a senile genocide supporter winning in November, or a Big Mac induced heart attack
He can’t pardon state crimes, only federal, and he can still run for president if he’s in jail.
It would be interesting to have the sitting president do his term in jail though
Not just winning, but winning decisively so the Court can't give a victory to Trump anyway like they did for Bush. If there is any doubt, at all, about the election then Trump will probably be the next president.
And rather than rallying his base to fight fascism, he's browbeating them to vote blue no matter who. The president can't fail, he can only be failed. 🙃
The problem is they're going to have to come up with a reason for that and it's going to get bandied about and completely rewrite the 14th Amendment.