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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Here in South Korea - Both the liberal and conservative party are very conservative. It wasn't until 10-15 years ago that women could even be the "leader" of the house. So the delta in conservative/liberal is more likely to do with economic/war policies with the North than much else (since men get conscripted, and North policies is one of the key differentiators between the 2 parties)

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

South Korea also has one of the biggest anti-feminism movements in the world. They just eliminated the gender ministry and rolled back protections for women. Not coincidentally, South Korea is Jordan Peterson’s biggest audience outside the US.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

The translation of "gender ministry" is completely misleading, I don't know why they made it that in English because that's not what it is. In Korean it's "여성가족부" which means "Woman's family department"

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't it be men making the decision on conscription policies though? A more liberal / less sexist government would be more likely to bin that.

The key difference I tend to see between men and women's issues is that men's issues are often caused by other men in power. Feminism, ironically enough, can also help with a lot of problems disenfranchised men have.

Sorry I'm rambling a bit.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sooooo yes, everything you said is correct, but there's a missing piece of context: binning the military would mean binning South Korea as we know it, so nobody (liberal or conservative) is in favor of binning it. The lines are much more murky.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Binning a sexist conscription system is not anything close to “binning the military”

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It very literally is, in South Korea's case.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How so?

Beginning to conscript women as well as men does not equate to abolishing the military, or am I missing something?

[–] Exosus@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What? Do you want half the army shopping for new shoes to wear in the trenches while the other half has to wait for them at the shopping mall fountain?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Were you trying to be funny, or is that your genuine understanding of women in the millitary?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

They could conscript women, but you can imagine how hard it would be for that legislation to pass.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

right. Korean politics seem to come down to "aid vs embargo". moon jae in was on the aid side, right? I haven't followed the current prez, what's their deal?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

President Yoon is a fascist that got into power by targeting women and disabled people.